Thanks. I am loving them. I had many compliments on them the one and only time I have worn them. One lady said "Wow, I love those, very metropolitan." I ordered them after AE CEO Paul Grangaard chimed in here and offered to waive the MTO fee. I ordered these at first with the brown reverse welt. I waited about 9 weeks and got a call saying that my shoes did not pass the inspection. I had happened to just that day see pics of someone else's Walnut Shell Macneil, and I loved it. So when I spoke with the rep at AE, I asked if when the made it again if they could do it with the natural welt. They hooked me up. The cost was $595. Normally there is I think a $150 MTO fee, but as I said that was waived. I am not sue if you can still get this deal for Style Forum readers. If you want, private message me and I will send you Allison's email. Oh, and so you know, I have heard from a number of people on here that they are out of Walnut Shell Cordovan.