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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. USAmade

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    I 100% agree, the facts are the facts, however I think AE learned a thing or two from Cole Haan and J&M about the negative implications of going offshore, wouldnt you agree?

    Both of their brands have suffered as a result, and I don't predict that would happen with AE.
     
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    ...and AE has shown that a company can be profitable and grow while keeping production in the US and quality high.
     
  3. New Shoes1

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    I'd agree with your theory of seeing more high end AE shoes in the future if it was Brooks Brothers buying AE. It's Mens' Wearhouse, though, which means we're likely to see a great increase in the AE non-goodyear welted line of shoes that will now be offered at MW. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though, as long as AE continues to maintiain the quality of its mainline and Independence line shoes and sells the higher end shoes at Nordstrom, Brooks Brothers and the AE stores.
     
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    I'm so frustrated by this discussion of the MW offer to purchase AE that I'm stepping away. The neat thing about a forum like this is that allows a community of interest to join in a conversation no matter where they may reside. It's hard to have a conversation, however, when so many people contributing to it have obviously not read the earlier relevant posts or ANY of the published news reports. I'm out. I still very much appreciate AE, but I'll leave this thread to people who prefer to send pictures of their feet to strangers than to engage in thoughtful discourse.
     
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  5. USAmade

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    Yeah, the guys in my local store said that's what they were doing.


    A friend of mine went with me to the store and wanted to get a Neumok in cognac, or chili. Neither of those colors are a part of their regular custom shoe ordering portal, and so they got in touch with a big wig in Port W/the factory who said "We're not at the point where we can make that shoe in those colors. However, we're getting there." He went on to say that hopefully within the next year the expansion will be complete and they will be able to put any upper on any sole they manufacture.


    pretty much you will be able to order anything you want in 6-8 weeks
     
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    I can verify this. I was having lunch with Paul this week and he complained that the factory has seen a significant increase in MTO boots in size 14, which has led to a spate of workers' compensation injuries from workers trying to lift them. The new MTO production line will include specialized equipment like this to help the employees work on future size 14 MTO's.

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    Yup, I agree and am not even mentioning or suggesting that they'd move production off shore. But will they continue MTO's and time consuming, troublesome shell offerings? If I'm a MW shareholder, sitting in a Board Meeting (wearing my MW Suit and Joseph Abboud shoes), do I care about the warm-fuzzy feeling SF members get from MTOs or the elusive cordovan? All I care about is the bottom line - move resources over to production lines pumping out the top sellers in our 1000 MW stores. That's where the profit is... I too agree that moving off shore and making AE something it isn't, won't work. But making all the custom put-ups that everyone likes to read about on SF will likely go the way of the dodo bird. Face it, whoever buys AE is going to overpay for it, and better have grand ideas on how to pay that back and show returns to shareholders.
     
  8. fourspin

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    Confirmed, $159 at Shoebank. Order on the way! Thanks Cincikid.
     
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    For what, the Aberdeen?
     
  10. chinngiskhaan

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    If AE does sell, and thier quality does go down... From which maker would you buy your shoes?
     
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    The maker I buy most of my shoes from now...Alden.
     
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    Yes, Aberdeen. I'm 10.5D, they had 7 pairs at the 'bank as of 30 minutes ago.
     
  13. rpearlberg

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    Thanks! I just bought a pair or McTavish (firsts), but maybe I should get these instead....thoughts?
     
  14. fourspin

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    I have Franciscans, Cliftons, and Derbys, and so I wanted something for casual wear and for fall/winter. Initially, I was thinking of either Neumoks or McTavish, but I decided on the rubber soles on the Aberdeens. I think the McTavishes are lovely, but I'm not sure I could stomach full retail on them.
     
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    I got them at the sale price plus 20% off on Amazon, so it was a good deal...I just want them for casual (jeans/chinos/etc.).
     
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    Is it just me, or do single monk strap shoes remind people of school uniforms?
     
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    You never have to pay full retail with AE's. Between seconds and the many sales, it takes just a little patience!
     
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    So I understand your point, but I think it is to AE's advantage to continue this service. The raw material cost is really cheap, and the labor costs (being made in the USA versus DR) are probably only a little more expensive. However, with each MTO, AE essentially guarantees a customer for life! You can't put a quantifiable price on loyalty or goodwill, but AE has got a ton of it. And that is valuable.
     
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    I'm a CPA and you can put a price on goodwill :) It's exactly what happens when a company buys another. I know what you meant though. I thought it was relevant to the topic, though.
     
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    Oh nice, thanks! This looks like a good idea.
     
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