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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. fourspin

    fourspin Well-Known Member

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    Winter in Denver. Would you choose McTavish or Aberdeen for casual duty?
     
  2. Olifter

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    Since it's casual and Denver, Aberdeen because of the mini lug sole and split reverse welt. I might favor a boot however, the Long Branch.
     
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    This would be a concern if you consider the fact that AE has already set up shop in the DR due to a lack of qualified people that can fit into the assembly line at Port Washington to fill the needs. I believe Paul said in an interview that the lack of employee supply led to their decision to offshore a factory in the DR. If they need to produce even more than they have now, there will definitely be a larger percentage of cutters/clickers and sewers in the DR since they already can't fulfill their demands with workers in Port Washington. This may or may not have an effect on the quality of shoes.

    This would either result in lower standards for shoes to pass as firsts or more favorable for us...a larger selection of seconds!
     
  4. cincikid

    cincikid Senior member

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    ^This. I have both and I find the Aberdeen far better in the foul weather.
     
  5. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Senior member

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    I agree here as well.
     
  6. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Senior member

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    AE won't have to fill that same requirement. I'd assume that even if MW did buy AE, they would probably be sold in a similar way that they are through JAB (meaning online) with only very select stores having them in stock.

    At the end of the day, I think that if MW owns the company, then MW is simply the bank account the profits are going into. Most everything else would probably be business as usual.
     
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  7. MoneyWellSpent

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    Agree.
     
  8. jungleroller

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    Holy hell batman! [​IMG] good eye! How much ram do you have on your computer to be able to run all those tabs?
     
  9. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Senior member

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    I just had to make a note of some irony I just read over in the Shoe Damage Report & Shoe P0rn Central thread. AE is always getting flack for it's cap toe (Park Avenue and Fifth Avenue specifically) proportions being off.

    I know that many have legitimate preferences for larger caps on their cap toes, and are genuinely able to see the value of AE while preferring certain models to be from other manufacturers because of their proportions being more tasteful on a case by case basis. I think that's great, and I genuinely like many offerings by other manufacturers more as well. People should be able to purchase shoes that they like more as long as the additional cost is reasonable to them.

    However, I firmly believe that there are also many who bash AE simply because of their place in the men's shoe hierarchy, and rather than admitting to the fact that they don't want AE's because of their low price point, they instead seek to bring down AE using subjective tactics. It's these people that this conversation made me chuckle about.

    Foster and Son (a highly respected English bespoke shoe firm) posts photos of shoe shown below in the thread.

    SF Member replies: "That smaller toe cap with a wider vamp is a nice look."

    Foster and Son replies: "We agree. It seems, somehow, more discreet."

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    I already know that some will say that the pair in this picture is a bit narrower overall (mitigating some of the offensiveness of the stubby cap), while the appearances of the AE cap toes vary widely based on width and length. I agree. I do think that some people would be better served by going with other brands if they have a particularly high width : length ratio. However, many just dismiss the AE's as being hopelessly out of proportion without any further consideration.

    Then again, I've never figured out why AE isn't allowed to have a slightly shorter cap, and yet Barker Black is allowed to produce these without much flack:

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    And yes, there are die hard SF'ers who wear these proudly.

    I know I'm playing with fire here. [​IMG]

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    chinngiskhaan Senior member

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    Also, it's worth noting that though the AE's are a dress boot, they can be dressed down as well. I wouldn't say as much for the Carminas, too fancy to be dressed down IMO.
     
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    Hah, noticed that as well. I actually didn't have that many of them open. Somehow using the Print Screen button has added this interesting effect.
     
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    I don't follow too much of the drama around here. People bash AE's cap toes for being too small?
     
  13. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Senior member

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    Quite frequently.
     
  14. cincikid

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    I think the size of the cap on the AE shoes is just about right. This said, I wear size 9.5 - 10 and can't say for certain if it might look different on larger shoes.
     
  15. fourspin

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    Thanks, Olifter and Cincikid. I have Redwing Iron Rangers for boot duty. I'll try the Aberdeen's. Lug sole seems like the winner.
     
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    All people do on SF is bash on AE it seems like :) Check out this thread as well:

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/362365/the-quintessential-dress-shoe-black-cap-toe-oxford/105

    Not bashing per say, but definitely less preference for the PAs. The others are more aesthetically pleasing, but other than the Loake's, much different price ranges. If AE adjusts the PA and FA to have caps closer to the length of the Strands, it would be pretty nice.
     
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    I was just checking the price for a colleague of mine the other day. Seconds are $159 and you can also buy firsts at $295 with 25% off at the J'ville outlet.
     
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    Really? I emailed with the Shoebank earlier this week on another closeout (Saunders). They had sent me a price sheet during the RDA and they were $159, but Vincenzo told me they were back to $199 after the sale. I assumed that meant that the Aberdeen's were also back to $199.
     
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    I'm fine with the PA's but if I was to be picky I wouldn't mine them looking a little sleeker if you will but that could be due to the elongated and narrowness of my foot in particular, also being tall.
     
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    I called the Freeport store on Monday and they quoted that price. You may want to double check though.
     
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