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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. cincikid

    cincikid Senior member

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    Thank you, ddahab. This was pretty much my hunch as well. With so much variation in color on a shell, this is not something I should really worry about, but other things equal, it would be nice not to have this variation at the outset. This said, I went ahead and mailed them to Nick V. at B.Nelson. I hope he will be able to offer his help.
     
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    The place that charged $17 for plastic heel and toe taps (and made me come back the next day for them) was in the Kroger Plaza at Bartlett Blvd and Stage Road in Bartlett. I think their name is Bartlett Shoe Repair.

    The other one is Cobblestone in a plaza off Sanderlin in East Memphis, it is behind a Fox & Hound. I was told you could get toe/heel taps done while you wait--the price was substantially cheaper than the one in Bartlett. At Cobblestone, it was $20 for a Goodyear brand rubber half sole and heel taps. It may have been about $15 for the Goodyear half soles and $5 for the heel taps. They did a good job-much better than I could ever imagine doing myself.
     
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    I'm going to keep them and I know no one will notice but wanted to make sure for firsts people found it acceptable. Thanks and they are really nice looking overall.
     
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    Wingtip balmorals like the McAllister can be pretty dressy. I've worn my Strands (captoe balmoral) with jeans and I like the look, but it's not exactly standard. I really like my (burgundy shell) Kenilworths with jeans, and would highly recommend them. Don't let the reviews bother you too much.
     
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    Yes, but which AEs?! Also, did you ask if they were seconds? ;)
     
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    Thanks... Another good local guy (albeit also out of the way) is nu life shoe repair off summer & waring
     
  7. kentyman

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    Your stat doctorate qualifies you as an expert on shoe brand quality?
     
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    I didn't say goodyear welted shoes. I said shoes or even formal footwear. My comparison was AE vs average dress shoe. You're redistributing everything in the 1+ SD above the mean for all formal footwear. Maybe even higher.

    In your (different) comparison, I might have to agree, though I don't know enough about the more expensive stuff to lend any expertise.
     
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  9. chinngiskhaan

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    Wake up? What got your panties in a wad? I didn't say they were high end, I said they were high end compared to the dress shoes that most guys buy (in the mind of the average man). Most guys would rather spend their money on things other than shoes. I am not one of those guys, and neither are you... good for us. I know Carmina is higher quality than AE, I never said that AE was higher quality than Carmina.

    I don't know where or what kind of lifestyle you live, but if it is anything like the Average guy's lifestyle you would know that most of us are perfectly fine with $100 dress shoes, and happen to think $350 for a pair of shoes is simply too expensive.

    I didn't think that saying typical guys view AE's as high end shoes would elicit such a response, and I apologize if my words offended you.
     
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    1) My experience is that the sizing chart is accurate, but nothing beats actually fitting the shoes since there are so many other factors that are not measured by the guide (instep, etc.). Also, there are AE shoes in Rustan's, Makati. I believe they have most of the 5-last styles, but I'm just not sure if they stock on the different widths as well.

    2) I have both and I prefer the styling of the Strand more. The McAllister is a very close second.

    3) I don't recommend buying second hand shoes especially if it's going to be your first pair. The main reason being you usually can't return pre-owned pairs just because you got the wrong size. Get the size right first and then you can be more adventurous. If you can afford it, just get new pairs -- first or second quality (unless, of course, the style you want is no longer available).
     
  11. cincikid

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    I presume you do not have a doctorate in the shoe manufacturing either. If you looked at the original thread, I simply stated that AE is on the left hand side of the distribution of the quality (which, by the way, is probably not normal, but rather Gamma or Beta, the way I see it), Goodyear welted shoes. Do you think I am not qualified enough to make this statement? If so, I will continue to improve my knowledge.

    I strictly mentioned about my background in stats in respect to the following (hope this was not too obnoxious):

    Originally Posted by ridethecliche [​IMG]

    300+ dollars for shoes is not cheap...Some of the seconds sales like the 2 for 250 etc are probably getting there though.

    I don't think you understand how a normal distribution works.
     
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    I think we are confusing two quite different things here: shoes in general and Goodyear shoes. These are like comparing apples and oranges. As far as I am concerned, you can't compare AE and Ecco, but you can compare AE and Edward Green.

    Yes, AE are expensive compare to Aldo (less so compare to Cole Haan), but they are cheaper than Alden, which, in turn is cheaper than C&J, which, in turn is cheaper than Edward Green and so on.

    If we are strictly talking about the Goodyear welted shoes, then AE is probably as low as it gets and $300 is an absolute minimum for the shoes in this league.
     
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    Anyone who's taken a freshman stat class has an understanding of normal distributions and standard deviations. I was merely commenting that your legitimately impressive overqualification when it comes to the subject of statistics doesn't mean we have to "trust you" and take your shoe brand opinions as gospel.

    Wasn't trying to offend; just pointing out that your education isn't exactly applicable.
     
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    You're right. I was just referring to my original statement about the continuum of the Goodyear welted shoes.
     
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    No worries. I was just referring to the issue of distribution, not the quality of shoes, as I have stated clearly.
     
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    I just placed an order for a pair of suede Carmina's that are similar to AE's Strand. With the current free shipping offer, they came to $389 shipped, which is only $70 more than what I would have paid for Strands during the recent sale with sales tax. For me, there was no question the step up in quality was worth an extra $70.
     
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    Doctorate in statistics is badass! I took AP Stats in high school and still find it to one of the most useful classes I ever took as far as applicability to daily life
     
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    Which model did you order?
     
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    Where are you ordering these Carmina's from? Their website or epaulet?
     
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    Uh... I think I know a little more about stats than you think I do, but really that wasn't the point.

    I do, however, wish that I knew more about stats and programming for stats. It would help a ton with my job planning/running studies.
     
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