Thanks for the fast response guys. Well I don't wear suits to work, just dress pants and a dress shirt. Winter would be a sweater over a dress shirt, never any ties. Reason I asked about the 2nd black pair is that it goes with everything expect brown pants and figured it would be versatile. I wear gray, navy, black and some slight variation of navy blue with a little pin stripe in the slacks. Yeah seeing the walnut strand does look good. What is weird is that my fifth avenue's the right heel is slipping a bit but the left fits perfect. I'll have to get some insoles.