Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
I wonder what shipping would be to Canada
Very true. I think in terms of AE, REGO might be the cheapest. My kenilworth right out the box weren't as comfortable as my fifth avenue's. The moment I tried on the fifth avenue's it was like walking on a cloud.
I think there is a little confusion here. The store he is referring to is not the new store, that tiny shop has been there for a while. The newer store is one on 43rd street, a few blocks further west. I go to both and haven't had a bad experience. I do, however, prefer the store on 43rd as it's much bigger. The Rockefeller location gets too crowded in my opinion, but the staff is great.
Regarding PA's fit, I'd usually say go with a little snug but not uncomfortable. BigRob, you can take some time to wear them at home on carpet to see if it gets better (it should). You can return the shoes so long as you don't wear them outside, they don't mind creases.
Thanks, Chris. That is a good tip, which I will explore further.
I looked up Chamois on the AE shoe care guide in the back of their catalogue, which provides a reference for the type of care product to use on each type of leather, etc., they sell, but I couldn't find Chamois. (I've certainly heard of that material on some exotic Alden models, I think.) Do you have any recommendations as to care. My pair seem to be in good condition and don't seem to need any particular care at the moment . . but for the future?
CB, as to your question about what product to use on the McTavish waxed rough leather, I'm sure that conditioner/cleaner is just fine to use (I use it on all of my calfskin models regularly). However, I would note that AE's product catalogue recommends the AE leather lotion, and I have followed that advice with my tan and black McTavishes with success (though I would note that the leather lotion slightly darkened the tan pair, but only slightly. Once it absorbs into the leather, the lighter nature of the tan color reemerges).
Here is the guide page that I photographed a while back for future reference:
(see the Waxed and Grain Leather paragraph, since the McTavish is a waxed leather)
BigRob, it sounds to me like the shoe is too wide and has too much volume over the top of your foot. I have very low volume (or short instep?) feet, such that bluchers often have way too much leather on top of my foot and will fold in and pinch the top of my foot as I walk. That is why 90% of my collection of AE shoes are balmoral style like the park avenue. That said, since you are having the problem with the park avenue, I would also note that I experienced this same problem to some degree with my first pair of strands (also a balmoral on the 5 last like the park avenue). I bought it in 9D and wore it for a long time as a pretty damn comfortable shoe, but it started to pinch down after a while. I later realized that 9.5C often works better for me in 5 last balmorals, and I replaced that strand with the appropriate size. (Incidentally, a good store rep should recognize the problem I am addressing immediately!) (Also, AE prides itself on customer service, and in my experience, they will exchange your shoes for a better fitting size even if you have worn them for several weeks or even months, as long as you bought them from an AE corporate store or seconds outlet. Of course, you should not do that when you have doubts up front as to fit.)
In sum, I would consider whether going down in width one step (maybe two, but I doubt it) would help. You may simultaneously need to go up one half size in length, so try all the permutations. One of the great benefits of wearing AE is that most of the popular models like the park avenue are available in all widths from A to EEE.
To echo others, it will not self-correct. Also, as to your statements about comfort, I used to think the same way you do about shoes. How can a leather sole shoe with a hard leather insole be comfortable. But i learned very quickly how comfortable a good fitting pair of all leather AE's can be. Plus, your foot will to some degree adjust over a week or two to the new normal of a proper dress shoe and not the rubber abominations that most men wear in your law office. Way too many lawyers in my area wear such crap. I used to be one of them, unfortunately.
I use Chamois Oil on mine.
Here is page from the Alden thread about chamois that I found interesting:
Apparently, there is normal chamois like I have, and then reverse chamois, which is like a more oily version of a suede shoe. Also, there is or was an AE chamois oil product to purchase, so I am going to do more research.
Incidentally, I don't know how I missed this for all this time, but here is a link to the AE website's shoe care guide:
Also, Chris, it lists your Holbrooks as brown chromexcel leather and recommends AE's Leather Lotion.
My Barton model is not listed by the way (many vintage models are excluded, it appears to me).
For Canada: A nominal charge of approximately $35 plus taxes to your home. The delivery point starts in the USA for the sale.
What brand, and where do you get it?
What does sizing "for the arch" have to do with the leather creasing in over the toes? Why do you think that is the cause of BigRob's problem? Please explain.
There may be more issues going on with his sizing than length and width. It could be the last/mold of the model as well. A professional, who has years of experience in measuring and feeling the foot inside the shoe, is going to be able to diagnose potential arch issues and other stress points. No one here can perform the analysis on his sizing, but based on what he wrote (in all of his posts), he may have gotten a sloppy recommendation based on a number of errors in thinking.
I know that many forum members buy their AE shoes and boots unseen over the internet, and unless they know their exact size and last from either personally being fitted or by trial and error . . . then it is blind shopping.
You will have a nice surprise in the Fall of 2014 - when Nordstrom's opens their first Canadian store, followed by three more throughout Canada! Not only professional fits, but I anticipate they will offer free shipping.
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The bigger problem though is paying for return shipping as well if the fit or anything else is wrong.
Also, yesterday I looked at buying about $25 worth of shoe care products and the shipping is still $35. That's much more than it should cost.
This isn't my picture, but here is a one that looks just like the outfit I'm wearing today. Chili with a medium grey suit looks great IMO.
I live in Canada and I recently had to return a pair of really bad seconds to the Shoebank and I wasn't charged for it.
I asked for and received a FedEx return label from the outlet.
I hope this helps.
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