Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

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  1. jrarnold

    jrarnold Well-Known Member

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    I wore my first pair of AE shoes for the first time for a full work day. How much creasing should I expect from one day of wear?

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    I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds Park Avenue shoes yesterday after work. They weren't very comfortable in the store but I had read all the rave reviews online and was prepared for a breaking-in period during which they would be uncomfortable (and still am prepared for that).

    I'm worried that I might be feeling something usual, though: With each step I take, the top of the shoe is cramping the top of my foot. The leather is folding inward when the shoe bends and it's digging into my toe-knuckles. I haven't worn my shoes outside yet (making sure I like these $350 shoes before I commit) - can I expect this to stop? Did anyone else experience this same thing before going on to enjoy their AE Park Avenues?
     


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    Nice shoes. The Walton - a model almost never mentioned on here. On the seldom used 3 last. I am TTS 9.5D. In the Walton I wear a 10B and it is one of the best fitting shoes I own, regardless of maker. I too own it in chili.
     


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    The rule I go by is that if the shoes aren't comfortable in the store on the initial try on and steps, they're not going to be any more so magically at home.

    The sales-people talk of blah blah blah stretch blah blah blah break in blah blah blah I just ignore.

    My Park Aves (3 pair) were all comfortable right out of the store.
     


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    They were comfortable out of the store? How...? They're extremely stiff and the bottom part, that your feet touch, is hard.

    A comfortable shoe this does not make. I'm counting on the leather softening up/molding to my feet and the bottom (cork?) doing the same.
     


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    Yes, I experienced the same feeling when I was shopping for an Allen Edmonds selection. It turned out the original salesman sized me for the wrong size! What is the name of the store you bought them from? If a national retail store, then I suggest you call immediately and ask for the name of the Manager of the Men's Shoes, and explain that you will be returning your selection for either a refund or a correct size, and you wish to know in advance if they have other sizes.

    With the right size, in calfskin, you should be able to wear them now - without a breaking in. Even some AE shoes that need a breakin may not feel that uncomfortable to wear.

    There is so much more that goes into correctly sizing an Allen Edmonds shoe - from what they refer to as the "Last" - which is a mold - to the ability to size up or down and going wider, like a tripe e (eee).

    Insist that a professional take the time to size you correctly for your arch (which is what it appears to me as the issue). Also, try on other sty;les in your revised sizing that may may different "Lasts" - or molds, so that you can make note of which "Last" is best for you in which size.

    All my best,

    David
     
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    I went to the store on the corner of 44th Street & Madison Ave. I got fitted then tried on about five different pairs of Park Avenue shoes - some were too tight, some too loose, and this one was the best of the bunch. They were not comfortable in the store, but again, I expected them to be broken in through wear and become super comfortable.

    Is this not going to happen? The soles are still completely unscratched so I guess I can return them if necessary.

    P.S. I went at around 7:00, after having been out of my house since 7:00 that morning. I'm working at a law firm and while I do a fair bit of walking, the majority of my day is spent sitting at a desk. I'm not sure if foot swelling is an issue, but, yeah, that's what happened.
     
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    In calfskin, they may be stiff until the "flex" part of the shoe breaks in, but they should be comfortable enough to wear . . . and NOT where you are experiencing pain, or a rough spot that may turn into a blister.
     


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    I'm not experiencing a rough spot. When I take a step, the leather on the top of the shoe creases inward and digs into the top of my foot.

    Is this abnormal? Can I expect it to self-correct?
     


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    The store is newly open. Some AE Sales staff are too new to know the difference in your arch, width, shoe last, etc.

    If you wore the shoes for 1 year, AE would take them back. That is why they have a very high rating.

    Insist on speaking to the Manager of the store, and mention to him you are willing to go to another store to get properly fitted.

    In the end, your foot may not be suited for a Park Avenue. They are made in what is called the "5 Last (65)" mold, which is "best for a long narrow foot".

    Other excellent styles may have a more comfortable feel right out of the box. Explore the AE Website.
     


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    The store was shockingly tiny. I'd estimate 200 square feet of floor space (not counting the back where they store shoes).

    Point being, I don't think the store has a manager, or at least, not one who is always on duty. Also, is that really the return policy? I asked the salesman, and he said I could only return unworn shoes (as evidenced by the condition of the leather on the bottom of the shoe).
     
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    I have to join others to say "no self correction".

    You're going to spend the next 20 or more years inside an AE Shoe. (Mine are over 15 years and still look great because I have a good polishing routine which preserves the calfskin leather).

    That much time (years) should give you an enjoyment you will not regret. You are putting the full weight of your body on your feet and on your shoes. For the amount of money you are investing, there are too many AE Retailers who will take the time to really get you the proper fit. (If you for me to refer you, just send me a Private Message)
     


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    Head over to the store in Rockefeller Center and speak to Liz. She helps me out all the time and is very knowledgable. Plus the store is about 5-7 times larger than the store you visited, makes trying the shoes on much easier.
     


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    ..in the U.S. If you happen to be in Canada, your options are somewhat more limited. Granted, there are still stores that carry them, but more often than not they have limited sizes in stock and need to order many sizes. Which means that you are often ordering in the dark.

    I've been fortunate that my three pairs of AE shoes have fit quite well at my usual size (10.5 D). However, I've heard that some of the other lasts fit quite differently. Even Harry Rosen, who sell AE shoes, only carry different sizes in certain styles, and not a lot of variation in terms of widths, etc.

    And as to the original poster's comment, I've found that my AE's have become a little more comfortable over time, as the leather flexes and softens up a bit. If they are painful to begin with, they aren't going to get substantially better, but I do find that as the shoe molds to your foot over time, it will become even easier to wear.
     
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