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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. Shoedog1089

    Shoedog1089 New Member

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    I think you should read his CEO blog on the AE website all the way back to April 8, 2010 where he proudly talks about the DR facility. To your original point about why didn't he release press about the DR facility in 2007, I am not sure how he could have done that since he became an employee of AE in late 2008.
     


  2. tesuquegolfer

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    I really wanted the original look and was worried that the Chili was going to be too dark. However, I felt like the natural wasn't going to do much so I bit the bullet and went with the Chili after looking at many walnut shoes in the store. I am pretty happy with the final result. You can really see the difference between the raw and Chili version but I think it works on the 5th which is a dressier shoe than say a more casual shoe. I really love the natural look on the Elgin for example but to me that shoe wouldn't work well in a dressier situation.
     


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    not sure why you are posting the same thing again but my response is [FONT=Helvetica, Arial, clean, sans-serif]above:[/FONT]

    Clearly AE would have been talking about it at the time (or now) via their press releases, if they were proud of it.
     
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    i'm unfamiliar with the sizing of this particular shoe.. is it typically TTS?
     


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    I can't answer your sizing question, but the Jeffersonville outlet indicated that there is only size 6 and 6.5 left of the cordovan Townley. SF cleaned them out :) Wish I would have jumped on it earlier.
     


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    thanks for the heads up.. i'm 11.5-12, so my wallet thanks you too [​IMG]
     


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    zchen, Thank you, that is exactly the information I was looking for. :)
     


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    Thanks for taking the time to respond. Based on your feedback I feel more than confident 11.5 D will fit the bill (and my feet). If the Dundees fit in between my Barrie lasted shoes and my Indys they should be perfect. Thanks again.


     


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    To All:

    Anyone know what Color and Style this great looking shoe is?

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    That is a storm welt, no? I have the same on my Florsheim Royal Imperials. Perhaps someone else can chime in with more details.
     


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    I'm not sure what those welts are called, but the MacNeils are classic "gunboat" longwing bluchers, so big welts and thick soles are usually part of the aesthetic.

    I own 3 pairs of LWBs and they are all pretty "gunboaty"

    L-to-R: AE MacNeil, RL Sanderson (by AE), Alden LWB
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    It's a reverse storm welt with a double sole. I have that very pair of shoes and love them. Super comfortable and very versatile.
     


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    If that is AE, that has to be a shoe that is either on the 0, 3, or 8 last by looking at that toebox.... I don't know the model name, however it can very well be an older shoe that is discontinued. Regardless, if you want this shoe, your best bet is getting the Strand in bourbon color. They have brown as well, but the bourbon is really nice and have a very warm tone to it compared to the brown.

    http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF6105_1_40000000001_-1


    Weren't the old Clifton's a 6 eyelit full brogued captoe? Edit, the origina Cliftons did not have a toe medallion

    The only differences between these and the Strand is the "serrated" brogueing along the cap, foxing, quarters, foxing... the toe medallion is smaller as well, and they are on a different last.
     


  14. MoneyWellSpent

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    There is some inconsistency between shoe manufacterers when it comes to welt terminology. The MacNeil has a Split-Reverse Welt using AE's terminology. Some call them Split-Reverse Storm Welts. It isn't really doing anything to keep water out of your shoe other than adding a few more millimeters of height to the profile of the welt/sole edge. I suppose it could theoretically keep out a bit more water if you are walking down a sloppy wet sidewalk by adding the small amout of extra height, but that's all it can do. Water during a heavy storm, or if you step in a deep puddle will still spill over the top and have an entry route underneath the insole and into the cork cavity where it is stitched at the inseam. It is really more of an aesthetic addition to the shoe to give it a heavier appearance.

    True storm welts (see this source: http://www.barbourcorp.com/pdf/welting_catalog.pdf) are built slightly differently and have more of a rounded bead effect up against the leather. It will act more like weatherstripping on a door. It will do a bit more to keep water out, but even they are not perfect. It is simply the best that can really be expected short of going to more modern methods and materials such as Gore-tex or using molded rubber soles that bond to the leather upper like many hiking/work/hunting boots.

    Sometimes you will see a line of stitching around the upturned edge of the split-reverse welt, and many people have believed that this is an additional line of stitching that is sealing the upturned edge using waxed thread to prevent water entry. This isn't the case, however. The stitching in those cases is false, and it is purely decorative. These are sometimes call "fudge welts." Here is an AE McTavish using decorative stitching around the upturned edge of the split-reverse welt:


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    If the shoe is Goodyear-welted, these are pretty much the main options.



    Alternatively, a Norwegian welt (not to be confused with the Norwegian Split-Toe design which is a decorative stitching of the uppers) actually has two functional rows of stitching. See this diagram:

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    Therefore, if you see a shoe with two rows of stitching, first determine if it is Goodyear-welted, or Norwegian welt construction. If it is Goodyear-welted (as most high-end shoes are) then one of the above scenarios should apply. If it is Norwegian (again, not to be confused with the Norwegian Split-Toe design which is a decorative stitching of the uppers), then the crossection of this diagram is what you are looking at.
     


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    I don't think that is an AE shoe. The shoe in the picture is 270 degree welted. While AE did 270 welts for a while on their Executive line a couple of years ago, the shoe in the picture isn't one of those. Also, the stitching in the welt is much finer than AE's stitching (more sitches per inch). I think the pictured shoe is most likely of English origin.
     


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