Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. GOP Shoe Guy

    GOP Shoe Guy Senior member

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    Here are my Great American Shell Cordovans. The Park Avenues just arrived today. They are pictured with the Brown Shell Strand that I got a few weeks back. You all that warned about how dangerous the shell is... well, you are right, I may be addicted. The light isn't the best in the photo, I will get better pics tomorrow in nature. So far, I am loving the Black Shell Park Avenues.
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    Great Shine on those.
     


  3. David Copeland

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    Thanks so much for proving where he was "coming from". When I clicked on his profile, he has a Youtube link to all of his personal shoes - nearly all ALDEN shoes. Perhaps he has yet to convert to Allen Edmonds because of his personal reasons, which seem to be overflowing.
     
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    I do NOT need this kind of temptation.
     


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    But do you want it . . .
     


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    Thank you. I did perform a search, not on your participation, but on Paul's participation in posting rhetoric as a means to communicate with AE customers and fans alike. Perhaps I missed the 2013 revised definition of rhetoric, but for the life of me I cannot find any such definition of noteworthy cultural credentials that calls rhetoric "BS".

    For the record, Paul's worthy rhetoric can be classed and defined as the following:

    "Rhetoric is the art of discourse, an art that aims to improve the capability of writers or speakers that attempt to inform, persuade, or motivate particular audiences in specific situations. The word is derived from the Greek "oratorical", "public speaker" related to "that which is said or spoken".

    "As a subject of formal study and a productive civic practice, rhetoric has played a central role in the Western tradition. Its best known definition comes from Aristotle, who considers it a counterpart of both logic and politics, and calls it "the faculty of observing in any given case the available means of persuasion."

    "Rhetorics typically provide for understanding, discovering, and developing arguments for particular situations, such as Aristotle's three persuasive audience appeals, logos, pathos, and ethos.

    "The canons of rhetoric, which trace the traditional tasks in designing a persuasive speech, were first codified in classical Rome:

    "Arrangement, style, memory, and delivery, along with grammar and logic is rhetoric as one of the three ancient arts of discourse from ancient Greece to the late 19th century

    "Rhetoric is a central part of Western education, filling the need to train public speakers and writers to move audiences to action with arguments."

    Therefore, I agree Paul used rhetoric in portions of his answers. But his use of rhetoric can be counted among the greats, including his associations and partnerships. And above all, perhaps we all can learn from his respect and civility.

    All my best,

    David
     
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    This was a good suggestion, but regrettably lost on all of those repeatedly shrieking for MH's head on a platter. You can't control the content of his posts, but you can control the content of your own. You don't want to see the subject discussed? Here's a novel idea: stop discussing it, and ignore MH when he brings it up. Nobody has a gun to your heads forcing you to read his, or eanyone else's posts.
     


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    I've been silent through this interesting discussion, patiently brushing my Walnut Shell Strands...

    Just wanted to say Thank You Paul for engaging with us here. It's extremely insightful, and more so rare. I've been an AE fan for a good half dozen years now, and plan to continue. I've been converting as many men along the way as I can.

    I see you're coming to NYC tomorrow. Wish I could get out of work in time to come uptown and say hello. Safe travels and keep on!

    ~Joe
     


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    So I see the Daltons on sale right now. I've never worn a dress boot and I'm a little confused by the thought. Are these acceptable to be worn with suits? I like the look of them, just not entirely sure what I'd wear with them.

    Thanks in advance.
     


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    Paul, I am hoping you can address another question raised by someone else regarding the DR production. (I, for one, am enjoying this conversation and welcome the opportunity to hear from the horse's mouth on these issues.)

    Specifically, someone commented that a concern with overseas production can be that it is done to save money -- which, no doubt, is the case for Allen Edmonds in the DR -- and that, therefore, it can involve less-than-fair or even exploitative labor conditions and wages for the foreign workers -- which I hope is not the case for Allen Edmonds. Given that part of the impetus for having some production in the DR must be to save money, what can you tell us about the labor conditions and wages for the Allen Edmonds workers there?
     


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    Hi everyone, quick question, how far into the toe box should the toes go?

    trying to get a good fit on the 5 last is giving me fits, sent back a pair that i ordered in my usual size but felt it was too long, now I'm second guessing myself.

    I'd go and get measured but the nearest brick and mortar is far :-(
     


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    What can be done to prevent the shoe from developing such deep creases. Although I store my AE shoes proper, they do tend to have a slight crease as shown in the photos above (just not as severe). Can this be related to an oft-size of the shoe or the choice of a style that does not have a capped toe (such as an Oxford)?

    Also, I have read where the creases can be greatly removed by some products - but I am not sure where I can find the instructions.

     
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  14. phototristan

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    Yeah, really pretty easy to ignore anyone's post you may not want to pay attention to.

    You can however thank me as you see Mr. Grangaard responding to me, something which most all of you have stated you want to see more of, right?
     
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    Good question. I was about to ask this myself as well because it doesn't seem like this something AE is proud of and wants to willingly share with the world.
     
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