Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

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  1. wdahab

    wdahab Senior member

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    I did too, until the other day when I snagged a pair for $300 from someone who didn't want theirs anymore (they'd only paid $350, so it was a fair price by his reckoning). Slight defects in them, but totally worth it. Oh man are they worth it. The color and the austerity short wing is just... I don't understand why no one else is doing that!
     
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    Looks great! How many coats of edge dressing did you use?
     
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    Just FYI, I received a response from Paul Grangaard in regards to my MTO request (Thank you, sir.). Looks like he has two people assigned to handle the special requests. I'm very interested to see how the process works and what the customization fees will total up to.
     
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    Yeah there are many of us waiting for shell boots. Normally the new styles come out in the fall however with the worldwide shell shortage will have to wait and see. There are too many shell heads running around these days! ;-)

    AE still offers the Dundee which is a chukka. And a man can never have too many shell chukka's IMO:

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    Although the colors are more limited now. If a suede Dundee comes out in snuff I am all over it.

    There is still the Dalton which is a wingtip and a great boot:

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    It is on the far right, this was in limited edition walnut shell but they are still available in Burgundy (#8) shell. I couldn't fall in love the Wolverine 1K 721 no matter how long I stood there and stared at it. Which was for quite some time LOL. Not sure why I didn't like it, but then again we all have our own preferences. I went with the 1K 744 captoe in Dark Cognac. Here with C&J for RL Marlow wingtip which is also Dark Cognac in between the pair of 744's. I love the color and the boot itself like all 1K boots are more a Heritage work boot. Not something for wear to work but general use. It looks like there are still some available at Leffot: http://leffot.com/shop/wolverine-744-ltd-pre-order/

    Fingers crossed that we will get past this shell shortage soon. Although my bank account says it is a good thing there are a few more boots and shoes I would like to pick up to fill in my matrix.
     
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    You are a douchebag.
     
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    Two coats. I will probably apply occasionally so they hopefully don't get that splotchy look again. If the do I will try the Renomat product I have heard about as that sanding process was time consuming.
     
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    What a non-issue. It would be almost impossible to state how little I care about the exact place of manufacture of every part of an AE shoe, or AE's exact manner of disclosure of those places. There are laws governing truth in advertising. If anyone on this forum has an issue with AE's methods, the proper forum to express their displeasure is with the authorities, not on this forum. In the meantime, Allen Edmonds will continue to be my main source for quality products at reasonable prices.

    CH
     
  8. AllenEdmondsCEO

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    Gentlemen --

    I really don't mind being challenged and, as I said in my long post, reasonable men can differ. However, as wdahab said above, I do have a day job and limited time for posting during the week. So, this time more briefly...

    I definitiely did not intend to suggest that upper-making isn't important. It's absolutely crucial to our quality that it is done extremely well. Both of our plants are great at the task, and it isn't an easy job. It takes fantastic fine motor skills and it's the beginning of the entire handcrafted process on that part of the shoe. It just doesn't result in a shoe, not anywhere close to one. That metamorphosis happens entirely here in Port Washington. As for the transparency, this is one of multiple times I've addressed these questions openly. Putting "Made in USA of Fine Imported Leathers, Sometimes European or Brazilian Rubber Soles, Often but Not Always with the Upper Cut and Sewn in the DR and Everything Else Done in the USA" seems too longwinded for the inside of a shoe...even to me. As has been noted previously, we don't yet have a system to track when we use Horween leathers (and we're purposely using more of them all the time) and sew the uppers all in Wisconsin. We still use the "of Fine Imported Leathers" wording for the sake of streamlining the stamping process and making sure we're not wrong, even when it's a Horween with the upper sewn in Port Washington. We're going to work on that one, and Skip Horween is eager for us to do so. So am I, but there are systems requirments ahead of it in our capex budget.

    MediaHound's issue (it wasn't a question) that I addressed directly, at least I intended to, was whether calling ourselves The Great American Shoe Company is "disingenuous". That my response sounded like a marketing statement is something I can't argue with. That it seemed like a long string of "American patriotism" is another point I'd agree with... gladly. Believe me, there's a lot more we could have added about how we think (you can disagree) we're "going above and beyond" and deserve that moniker. We're proud of what we're doing here and how it's rejuvenating not just our company but also employment in a formerly robust U.S. manufacturing county.

    Less than 1.5% of the shoes bought in the U.S. these days were made in the USA at any steps along the way (according to the American Footwear and Apparel Association's data). We've bucked a multi-decade megatrend and we're glad we did. I would think you guys would be, too, especially because we've done so without charging another $100 (or, depending on the style, much more) for the same shoes made out of the same leathers. As I read these posts, pricing seems to be almost as important as quality when it comes to purchase decisions. So, in the vernacular.... that's how we roll.

    Back to work.... Thanks.
    Paul
     
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    This guy here needs to cool it or get banned. Its not even about whether anyone likes or dislikes, or favors or disfavors Allen Edmonds. It has become abundantly clear that he's whining about something that has already been addressed numerous times which is resulting in him talking in circles at this point. And it seems as though repeating the same thing several times has the effect of making a startling new revelation each time he does so, in his mind. Its getting ridiculous. At some point you have to just think for yourself and quit waiting to be spoonfed an apology for what you perceive to be dubious business practices. An inability to do so, in my eyes suggests either a stubborn opposition to reason, or an ignorance to the fallacy of your points that have been addressed time and time again. Perhaps not in the tone of appeasement you'd prefer, but they absolutely have been addressed before AND after your grievance was posted here.

    I say this because common sense should tell us at this point that the reason the words "Mediocre, Mostly American Shoe Company With a Slim Minority Of Craftsmanship Completed In the Dominican Republic" dont appear on the website is because that is not the breadth of their source of production. The majority of styles arent even made in the Dominican Republic, and even the one's that are, have the materials shipped from the U.S.

    And to be honest, I dont know if Im the only one who already knew this or who remembers this but this Paul guy openly and very transparently said MONTHS AGO that the line of shoes made entirely in the Dominican Republic are very clearly labeled AE rather than Allen Edmonds. He outlined the exact reason for its separate namesake and where those shoes are manufactured. And now in an effort to play "gotcha" sensationalist, we've got some wannabe whistleblower guy drudging up the same exact information that was openly and transparently stated AND REHASHED months ago, and pasting an exclamation mark at the end of it as if he's made a breakthrough discovery for the Enquirer or TMZ. It isnt even a newsworthy revelation at this point. It is the very definition of whining. He's been told what is happening, he's been given the reason it is happening, and rather than accepting either, he goes fishing around for more exposes to publicize that do nothing more than restate what has already been openly discussed. Thats like someone running around squawking about water not being naturally blue, and then everytime someone points out that thats already been discovered by everyone, the person harps on the fact that Aquafina hasnt drawn attention to that information on its website. It starts to look silly after a while.
     
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    Just saw this.... I think I understand it and it cracked me up.
     
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    the more I hear from Paul, the more I admire AE. I have more than 20 pair and will buy more in the future. I will definitely buy more if Paul can make the custom order happen, as mentioned in his previous post.
     
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    I can personally confirm that value (quality/price) is paramount for my purchasing. Honestly, if your prices weren't so low, I wouldn't be "into" nice shoes. The accessibility of Allen Edmonds shoes is what has allowed me to go from wearing sneakers to work (very laid back office) to being "the guy with the nice shoes". So as they used to say, keep on rollin'...
     
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    Paul,

    If you are proud of what you're doing as you state above, why do you selectively hide what you are doing on your public website such as here?:

    http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/PressReleasesView?langId=-1&storeId=1&catalogId=40000000001

    Again, you talk a ton about your USA manufacturing all over your site left and right, but nothing on the offshore manufacturing. One would think you are trying to hide it or something.

    If you are proud of that fact, why fail mention to it? In the link above, I don't even see a single press release on the DR plant, though I see tons of other press releases on many other (arguably less important) topics like holiday sales, etc.
     
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    I'm about to buy more pairs myself. I'm going to sell my Hastings (size 11.5D) and my Strands (11.5E) because they simply are the wrong size: I should be in an 11E on the #5 last and don't want to keep these two pair around much longer (I've only worn each about six times each). I know I'll lose some money on them, despite purchasing them as seconds, but think it's the right move over the longer term. I have a pair of Bourbon McAllister's coming (11E) and look forward to replacing the other pairs (likely a pair of Strands in Walnut and a pair of Neumoks). Thinking about passing on black for now...
     
  15. AllenEdmondsCEO

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    David -

    We have Facebook and Twitter sites. Someday I hope to have an interactive Forum on our website, but that's a ways into the future. We do have the ability to post reviews on our products, though, and we reply to those directly, which is active dialogue.

    I'm not sure what you'd like with respect to the Sanford. We had to re-order the cutting dies for that shoe to re-introduce it -- as the originals had been lost. So, we're more than willing to use them again. Please send me your phone number and I'll have our newly-constituted StyleForum SWAT Team call you directly, if you'd like.

    Paul
     
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