Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

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  1. kmdsimpson

    kmdsimpson Senior member

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    Those particular Dundees are shell cordovan. Likely never on sale, although seconds pop up once in a while.
     
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    PSA: Allen Edmonds is opening a new retail store in St. Louis, MO. For those of you familiar with StL, it will be located in Plaza Frontenac: upper level near Neiman Marcus.
     
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    yea I figured as such. I have a pair of cigar chukkas from alden that have a more olive tone. these are a shade more to my liking
     
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    Same length - 11.5D Strand, 11.5E McTavish. 12D Dalton
     
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    Does anyone have both the Kenilworth and the Park avenues? I have the Kenilworth in size 7.5 and I read that they fit bigger than most AE's.. I'm assuming I'd be a 8 in Park avenues?
     
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    I am a 9.5 D in the PAs and a 9 D in the Kenilworths. It's strange because they're on the same last. However, I've heard bluchers/derbys can be like that versus oxfords/balmorals.
     
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    Kenneth Cole Haan Senior member

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    I tried to do a search but got conflicting information. I bought the "Spray Waterproofer" for use in leather, suede, or fabric, and "silicone-free". I bought some Sedonas and it was recommended. Now though I hear that such waterproofing spray is unnecessary and could ruin the leather.

    Is the Allen Edmonds "Spray Waterproofer" a good idea? For only suede, or for calfskin?

    What'll happen if I am caught in the rain with leather or suede shoes? Permanent water stains?
     
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    cmd06 Well-Known Member

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    So I did what members suggested by buying the burgundy Dalton instead of the chocolate brown one - despite the $300 difference.

    This is my first purchase of shell cordovan and AE factory seconds. I'm unsure whether or not the defects shown in the images below are serious enough to return the burgundy pair. A) Is the shaft of the boot too battered-looking? B) Is it normal for black marks to be on the shaft? C) How bad are the horizontal white creases on the right side of each boot, midway down the shaft?

    I'd especially appreciate any comments from people who returned factory seconds before, and what their reasons were.


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    Here is a daytime comparison shot indoors of the Daltons in walnut calf and chocolate brown calf.

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    Finally here is a comparison of the walnut calf Dalton and the burgundy shell version. I saw some posters have both the walnut calf and chocolate calf, or burgundy shell and walnut shell, but not my combination.

    I've tried to show with flash and without, and with various backgrounds to best show them. In my hunt for this boot, I spent a few hours trying to see whether the chocolate brown and burgundy were different enough. AE burgundy is more brownish and less shiny than the Alden #8 or AE Merlot.

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    Are those burgundy shell Dalton's firsts or seconds? If they are firsts, I would not accept that. If they're seconds and they creases don't show any cracks or tears into the leather, then it should be fine. I'm sure you could brush most of them out.
     
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    They're seconds. No cracks or tears in the leather. Glad to know they can be reduced by brushing. I'm glad the crease will covered by the pant bottom when wearing.
     
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    This.
     
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    A) There is some battering to the shaft, but I think after some wearing you will begin to see a different structure to the shaft. This wouldn't be a concern to me since these are seconds.
    B) The black marks are a bit bothersome, but they will not be seen because your pant will cover it. You may want to try some reno mat to see if you can remove it. It may come off, it may not. Either way it won't be seen because of your pant, and I am sure the black marks is why this was marked as a second.
    C) The creases wouldn't worry me much. I would try to smooth them out with a deer bone treatment.

    If these were firsts, I would send them back. As long as they fit correctly, I would keep these as seconds. You may be able to clean these up with some proper care. Either way, you have a beautiful boot that will last you a lifetime.
     
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    I spent some time applying edge dressing and Sapphire Reno to a few of my shell shoes last night.

    AE Dalton in Walnut Shell - AE Dundee in Cappuccino Shell - Alden LWB in Cigar Shell
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