Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

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  1. kentyman

    kentyman Senior member

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    What about the J&M Melton? $165 seems like a good price for a Goodyear-welted shoe. MoneyWellSpent, since you've compared their shoes, I wonder what disadvantages this one has over the others. I've had friends ask for sub-$200 dress shoes, and I've always wondered if this one would be worth the price.
     
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    Wearing my McTavish Natural Tans first day to the office. Business casual here...(more on the casual side). [​IMG]
     
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    The Melton is corrected grain with a finish that looks more like plastic than leather. Also, it is using a foam insole covered by a thin piece of leather. Essentially, it is a Goodyear-welted shoe using cheap, cemented shoe components that you find in Cole-Haan, Bostonian, Nunn-Bush, Kenneth Cole, and the list goes on... It is made overseas as well. It is better than those other brands being that it is Goodyear-welted, but that is about it. If it were me, I'd hunt down a pair of Park Avenue seconds for less than $200.00, which isn't too difficult if you monitor the sales.
     
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    Great looking shoes!
     
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    MoneyWellSpent, this is interesting. I used to think highly of J&M's made-in-the-USA shoes, so I'm hopeful that the Georgetown is high quality. It is odd that they cite only 115 steps. I've never seen them in person, and I'm not surprised that they don't even show them in the store. They barely highlight these shoes at all on the website, and they only make them to order with no returns. It's like they don't want anyone to buy them! Good to hear of the apparent quality when you looked at them in person.
    I am not sure, as they say it is Goodyear welted. So you have Georgetown, Goodyear welted and made in the USA for $375, next step down is Hyde Park II, which is same construction but made in India, and then Melton, which is ??? I know in the past J&M differentiated among the insoles and padding. Maybe that's the only difference between Hyde Park and Melton. EDIT: MoneyWellSpent answered this as I was typing!
     
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    My impression is that they deliberately maintain a perception of exclusivity with these. Much of the public out there (particularly people who were into their careers when J&M was making top notch shoes) still believes that J&M makes some of the world's best shoes. People who are loyal to the brand and are under this old school impression will walk into the store to buy their shoes, and if the sales person percieves that they are the appropriate clientele then they may pitch them the Crown Aristocrafts as their best offering. J&M quit making shoes of this quality altogether and then they brought them back in a lesser quality form. My guess is that they were simply responding to the current trend of "Made in America" along with the classic men's styles becoming fashionable. They seem to maintain a skeleton crew of people that make them in their Nashville factory, and if I were those people, I'd be ready to lose my job as soon as the "trends" are fading.
     
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    I may have misrepresented the history above regarding the closing and re-opening of their Nashville factory. I started searching google after I said that, and this is the source that I think I was remembering: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/...t-well-actually-MTM-Shoes&p=796575#post796575 Perhaps they never actually closed the factory, and instead they just whittled it down to a skeleton crew. Either way, their output of Crown Aristocraft shoes is extremely small, and they are much lower quality than they were even up to the early 1990's. I still wouldn't be totally surprised if they closed it at some point in the future.
     
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    Reposting this as it took a while to clear the system and subsequently got buried... would love any and all responses:

    Hey all,

    I'm new to this and I've been planning on getting my first pair of AE for a while now. I'm thinking to get seconds and take advantage of the jeffersonville 20% off deal, I just can't decide what exactly to get.

    I was thinking to start with either Strands or McAllisters, in either Walnut or Bourbon (I think I prefer the Strands in Walnut and the McAllisters in Bourbon). My choices from the outlet's inventory include those two for $269 and $274, or the Brooks Bros Walnut Strand for $199. Is there a large difference between the Brooks Bros strand and the normal AE strand? I've read about the poron insole and the different sole, but I'm wondering if those truly make a big difference, especially for someone who has never had a pair of AEs before. Also, does AE recraft the Brooks Bros version too?

    In the end I might just go for the Bourbon McAllisters... but the Brooks Bros Strand seems like a good deal if the quality is on par.

    Thanks!
     
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    I just got an email from one of my contacts at the shoe bank who said that he heard AE was opening up a Chinese production shop for their shoes sold in China...has anyone else heard this?? Apparently the Chinese have levied a new freight tax to discourage imports from rising American manufacturing?
     
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    Josiah at the Jville store.
     
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    Since my first foray into Allen Edmonds, the Long Branch, I have become increasingly self-conscious about the Eccos I've been wearing these many years.

    For my next pair, I'm thinking Strands. A couple questions:

    11.5 D (which could probably have been 11E) in Long Branch = ? in Strand? 11 E?

    Does anyone have a good pic of the Bourbon IRL? I feel like the pic on the AE site doesn't accurately represent the actual shoe, compared to an ad in the Harry Rosen magazine I recently saw.

    Many thanks.
     
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    Have you done a google images search?
    http://www.google.it/search?um=1&hl...L8WsPMTjgYgH&ved=0CDcQvwUoAA&biw=1024&bih=660
     
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    There are pictures in this thread. I even posted some. Just click on a recent picture and then click "gallery view" to see all the pictures in this thread, starting with the most recent. I hope that helps.
     
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    Sorry- I can't help with the sizing, but I'd encourage you to not be too shy to get fitted. I'm sure that will give you the best possible results!
     
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