Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.
Those look great!
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Picked up a pair of shell Randolphs off the bay for a steal in pretty good shape, but a little more worn than I got the impression from in the listing. Not too disappointed, as I mentioned they were a steal. Just wondering how many wears/miles I have left in these soles before I need a recraft/resole. I was hoping to make it through summer - I only plan to wear the loafers once a week but I do log some decent mileage on NYC streets (approx 1 mile a day I would say). I've attached some pics, let me know what you guys think in regards to the life left in these shoes before they need a recraft:
My factory seconds McGraws in Burgundy Cordovan finally arrived. However, the left shoe is significantly darker than the right.
What should I use to darken both to the same shade? What do you think about first using Saphir Renomat followed by Saphir Cordovan Wax polish?
Also, does anyone know where I can get Saphir Renomat other than from thehangarproject? It is back-ordered there.
Hmm maybe. I may well need to do something to differentiate them from the walnut Strands and walnut Player's.
I was also playing with the box of colored laces that also came in and added some flair to my chocolate suede Players. I think these laces will be great for jazzing up the daily wardrobe.
I have those very same players with the same laces, and it's a killer combo. I don't think any shoes except my black wholecuts have tone laces.
I walk probably that much per day (sometimes more) and am nowhere near a recraft in any of my shoes. I am about a year in on my oldest pair. I have had the heels replaced on 2 pairs by a local cobbler ($25 a pair). These were the full rubber heel. Your combination heel might be a little more expensive. I also have topys on some, which greatly extends sole life. I have had those replaced once in 2 pairs ($35 per pair). You can get metal toe taps installed, which will protect the front of the sole. I haven't done a full resole yet. I could probably get it done locally much cheaper than an AE recraft. I wouldn't bother with the process unless you felt the shoe would benefit from being re-stretched over the last.
Perhaps, one of the best measure of when a shoe needs a resole is when the sole begins to feel soft, but before a hole develops. If they feel relatively stiff, you probably have plenty of life left. They don't actually look all that bad, and they might still have enough rigidity to allow the installation of a topy to extend their lives.
I'd send them back. You will have a tough time getting them to match.
Thanks for the responses guys. The soles steel feel plenty hard, my main concern was the toe/tip area. I seem to wear the toes of most of my shoes pretty quickly and don't want to do any structural damage to these shoes. I'd like to look into getting a topy/toe tap combo, but thought that maybe these soles were too worn for that at this point, so I figured I would wear the sole out as it is now then get it resoled once it's in need. Do you guys think it's not too late to get topy/toe tap put on? Never replaced soles or gotten topys before so not sure how it works. I've heard good things about B. Nelson in NYC, do you think I should take my shoes in and have them take a look?
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Sizzle, I have to admit, your pictures of that combo were the impetus for me searching out and buying them; my first pair of suedes. Beautiful shoes. Wish I had the laces in time for St. Patrick's day. In this case imitation really is the sincerest form of flattery.
New pics of my $45 shell MacNeils after some Mac Method cleaning, some brushing, a little bit of Renovateur, and a very small bit of AE shell polish. The Mac Method stuff works, and I would have used it exclusively on this pair, but they are old and sort of dried out, especially after I spent so much time removing old buildup with Renomat when I first got them.
This is the pair where I used fine grain sandpaper to ground down the black welt and refinished them with some AE natural and chili edge treatment.
no prob...I understand what you're saying, but Ill have to agree to disagree...until I see evidence to the contrary, it is far TOO coincidental that price increases, and reduction in alternative leather offerings have come at the same time that AE rolls out its costume shoes, for me to dismiss it as merely happenstance.
You bring up a good point about foot size change. There was a poll on AAAC concerning that a few years ago and many men sometime around age 40 do have their foot grow. Most of my adult life I was a 9.5B. In my early 40's I jumped to a solid 10D. A year and a half ago I rolled my left foot on a downed white birch while ruff grouse hunting and jacked it up pretty bad. Since then my left foot has been a 10.5D but it involves tendons and ligaments torn all the way up to my shins. And the loss of my arch because of it. With the superfeet inserts in place my heel is locked in very well on the Bayfields. They are not uncomfortable at all, for me. I don't like heel slip even if it is slight enough that it still does not cause toe slam on downhill decent. I have a lot of play in the heels of my RW Beckmans which prevents me from wearing them more. My 1k 744's and Krause fit perfect, then again they are made by AE Bayfields feel pretty good to me except tighter than I'd like. Bucksfan went up a width in his and really wish I would had too.
Insoles vary a lot which ever one works best for you is the right one IMO. I picked up the black superfeet up at the AE store almost on a whim a few years ago for $20 a pair. 4 years ago I had custom orthotics made and they cost me $400 a pair and purchased a dress shoe set and a boot set. My feet actually seem to like the superfeet better than the custom ones, go figure.
When I talked to a person inside AE a few years ago she said there are 3 separate cost\sales centers independent of each other. The AE stores, department stores, and webgems. Don't know if that still holds true but I would think it is likely still that way.
That is a heck of a lot of color change to try and match. I would send them back and try another pair.
With that said my last couple of shell shoes from AE have had a lot of cream on them. And I mean a lot. I was able to lighten my brown shell Patriots by using Renomat, this is how much cream came off on the first pass:
And the black shell PA I got early this week I just used Reno:
The black spots at the top are from using Reno and where my finger was rubbing, only a few showed up here but there are about a dozen like that. About the same as using Renomat above. After that I let them sit for awhile and dampened the other end of the T-shirt and wiped them down before brushing. You can see what came off at the bottom of the shirt. No color change because it was black shell but when brushing shell I prefer to brush shell, not cream. You could play around trying to match them and use Saphir Cordovan polish in Cordovan after stripping but in the long run I think it would better to just return them.
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