It's really hard to say. Standard balmorals (Strands) fit me perfectly in 8.5D, standard bluchers (Kenilworths) are too long in 8.5D, lined Rough Collection balmorals (Elgin/McTavish) are too long in 8.5D, and unlined Rough Collection balmorals (Neumoks) were way too narrow for me. All that is to point out how hard it is to really tell without trying them on. It's the same 5-65 last, but various reasons could account for the tighter fit. But yes, I found them to be very narrow. Good news is they opened my eyes to the fact that I might need to be wearing E's or wider.