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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. masernaut

    masernaut Senior member

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    It's pretty early in my life, but I think I've found the one shoe I will pass down to my kids some day. Brown shell Patriot. I've only worn this shoe three times, but each time it's been in a different city. It's discovered the financial districts and bay areas of Toronto, Vancouver and now San Francisco. I wonder where we'll go next?

    I also took the opportunity to drop by the AE store on Sutter Street in SF. Picked up a few much needed edge dressings.
    RL snuff suede Sanderson and Saunders also came in today!


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  2. masernaut

    masernaut Senior member

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    They look fantastic in bourbon! Enjoy them.
     
  3. phototristan

    phototristan Senior member

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    I need some guidance.

    I have a 20% coupon at Amazon for shoes and thinking about getting either the black Park Avenues or Walnut Strands.

    I have no particular need for either, but with the discount, either is a pretty good deal.

    I don't have any balmoral shoes to date but do have a black shoe I can wear formally. I also have other pairs of brown shoes already too.


    Which would you choose? I'm not looking for any more wingtips so that is not up for consideration.
     
  4. PhiPsi32

    PhiPsi32 Senior member

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    I suggest a tropical location.

     
  5. charliebrown2

    charliebrown2 Senior member

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    walnut strands. Like you said, you already have a black pair for formal occasions and other pairs of browns. go with walnut strands.
     
  6. phototristan

    phototristan Senior member

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    thanks. i've now ruled out the park avenue due to it's lack of versatility with anything other than formal wear.

    now i'm considering the patriot too...
     
  7. New Shoes1

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    Get the Patriot now and then pick up Walnut Strands for $200 during the Nordstrom Anniversary sale in July.
     
  8. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Senior member

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    Great shoe. I'm loving mine as well.
     
  9. jbcohen

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    Ok, you folks have convinced me that I should put a few extra dollars into a sale item at my local Allen Edmonds, I will walk on down to the store later this morning to get fitted so I can order them perhaps today or tomorrow. Never owned a pair of loafers so I might order a pair of those.
     
  10. evilWagon

    evilWagon Senior member

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    I need a bit of help from the AE aficionado's concerning fit and selection, no one local has stock in my size so I need a best guess before ordering to minimize the risk of return.

    So far my selection has come down to the Delray in Black, and possibly the Kenilworths or Leeds in a brown or walnut.

    I downloaded the AE sizing chart and length wise one foot is just over the 14.5 mark and the other is just shy of the 15 mark, width wise both feet are on the border between the WA and WB range. The WB in 15 would be a D width, the WA a C. The other factor is that my second toe is quite a bit longer than my big toe, which has bumped me up or down in sizing before depending on the shape of the last (with other manufacturers).

    I'm curious if anyone else with roughly similar size feet relative to the size guide can weigh in here?

    A little more background; I have large feet and as a result my selection has always been limited, both because few manufacturers makes dress shoes in the 14+ range and even fewer were previously in my price range. But now that I wear dress shoes on a daily basis at work I feel it's worth the investment. I work in an Architectural Engineering field, 'Business casual' (yuck) is the norm, dress pants, open collar dress shirt and other than formal settings it's not often that I have occasion to wear a suit and tie (unless I'm pitching a new client or at an industry event). I was looking for something that could turn double duty for now until I can pick up some more dedicated formal shoes like PA's or Strands in Cordovan. I'm also 6'7" in case height has something to do with the appearance of the shoes.
     
  11. jbcohen

    jbcohen Well-Known Member

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    Can't the local store establish your size so that you can order the model you want in the size that the store says you are?
     
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    I'll leave shoe recommendations to the more qualified and, as a 14AA, speak to size. Contrary to what might be expected, the actual length of the shoe is less of a problem once you get that far into the stratosphere; a shoe that intends to maintain any sense whatsoever of proportion will have a toe box that'll accommodate the length of your foot.

    When you consider crease patterns and actual comfort of the shoe, it's best to purchase based on the higher of either the ball measurement or the overall measurement. For you, given that Allen Edmonds quits half sizes past 12.5, that sounds like bumping up to a 15 on each side... unless the ball of your foot suggests a still higher size. If your 14.5 foot is on the wider side and your 15 foot is on the narrower side, that actually might be perfect... but all of his is hypothetical without all the actual measurements involved.

    I'd suggest hitting a Payless or something and using their Brannock device to check that ball measurement. I know how much fun it is to find shoes in sizes that aren't even on the bell curve, and it's probably best done with a more advanced aid than AE's printout.

    ps: I absolutely love my shell Leeds.
     
  13. Cold Iron

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    Wow great job. I really like mine also, my next shoe is the burgundy Patriot I like them that much. Where ever you land next, have fun!
     
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    Oh dark thirty start today. Walnut Shell Dundee's under the Metal Halide floodlight this morning:
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    I can't vouch for the Patriot since I've never tried on a pair, but aesthetically I think it's AE's best loafer (I am biased towards non full strap pennies).
     
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    That walnut shell looks outstanding! I should be receiving my first pair of walnut shell AE's today or tomorrow. Hopefully they end up looking as good as your Dundees.
     
  17. evilWagon

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    You're talking about general sizing on the Brannock? That's not a bad idea. There's no actual AE stores where I live, just partner stores so I'm doubtful that the SA's would know the AE last sizing/fit enough to recommend one, that and I plan to order online as no one local carries inventory in my size and the stock pricing is crazy up here never mind special orders.

    Thanks very much for your feedback, I hadn't even considered ball measurement (there's a joke in there somewhere) but you have a good point. As far as the different widths of my feet, they're both the same actual width, but the relative letter varies depending if I step down to a 14 (D) or up to a 15 on the border between D and C... which would you choose? I'm thinking of going for the C with expectation that the leather would stretch slightly vs being on the narrow end of D where it might be a bit loose given the length. I've had other shoes where my foot moves around a bit and it wears through the lining.

    Thanks for your help.
     
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    Well the OptoDoc Method is squashed before it ever got up and running. I hit the coffee stained boot with AE conditioner/cleaner last night, let it sit for 15 minutes, brushed it, then washed it with soap and water. I let it dry and then applied C/C to both shoes liberally and let them dry overnight. There is no discernable difference in color between the shoes this morning. I think my wiping the shoe with soapy water as soon as I could after the incident helped prevent the coffee from soaking into the leather too deep (that and the fact that I regularly condition and polish the boots).

    I still thank it is feasible to dye leather with coffee, though, and may try it in the future on some old hiking boots.
     
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    I have that exact shoe - the bourbon looks great on that shoe. I also have the Bourbon Manistee - I really like that belt. I would say you have a great combo there. I believe the Flatiron is on the new 3-333 last which I found to fit well on my foot. Chris
     
  20. random-adam

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    Ain't gonna lie, it took everything I had to not go there with regard to "ball measurement".

    Based on what you've said, I think a 15C is probably your best bet... but again would earnestly advise spending two minutes confirming that with a Brannock device. :nodding: That said, if you're going with a Park Avenue or other 5 last shoe, the D width will probably work better.
     
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