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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. MrWN

    MrWN Well-Known Member

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    Ah, thank you for the heads up!

    Hopefully they'll do something similar this weekend.

    I can't find the Brook Brother's Strands 2nds on AE's website though.

    Or were you referring to the "Strand Cap-toe Oxfords"?
     
  2. Deladonis

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    A man cut from the same cloth as I . I wear a 14.So it is real hard to find the AE's I want sometime. I Have a pair of Fairfaxs. I stumbled on a pair of Manhattans a couple of weeks ago and found the Greenwich's last week. I of course Have a pair of Westgate's on my list #1. I know that will be near impossible to find.As well as Austin's and Berkley's. From the mid to late 80's. I may as well add the Hastings and Weybridge that I have on my sub main list.My last few Wholecuts will be very hard to find. Takes me back to the sneaker hunting i would do in my youth. I am always open to any help people can give me to hunting down these elusive shoes. Happy hunting!
     
  3. AmericanGent

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    As mentioned by almost everyone, they are a no go. Brown shoes work with everything but black.
     
  4. Cold Iron

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    That is my thought too. It looks like bloom on shell and think the leather on those is hot stuffed so it is the oils and fats coming out like MWS said. The oils and fats are hydrophobic so repel water however think the water may be pushing them out of the leather also, it is likely very saturated from when they tanned and stuffed the leather.

    If they were mine and doing that I would start by using saddle soap. Although I like most AE shoe care products I only use Fiebing's Glycerine Saddle Soap Bar. It is 100% glycerine which is what museums and scientist use to treat leather for long term preservation. On those boots I would use a soft sponge and water just as hot as you can stand it. Get the sponge wet and using a little saddle soap work it into the boot until it is covered in lather. Then rinse in hot water. Don't soak them just rinse and use the sponge to help remove the lather. I do that a couple of times then let them dry away from direct heat but with some air flow around them. Once they are totally dry you can use Reno again it will help bring back the luster. But my preference on a boot or leather like that is to use a couple of THIN coats of Obenauf's Heavy-Duty Leather Preservative AKA: HDLP. It will darken them a little but make them totally waterproof. The finish will also change it will be hard to get a shine they will be duller looking. But I personally like the protection it gives and I pick function over form when it comes to most boots. And I think the HDLP may help prevent the bloom from coming back.
     
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  5. LeviMay

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    The picture of the treated boot is, indeed, from immediately after Reno-ing and brushing. There was a little product in the brogue holes, but it soaks in shortly after. My regular regiment for these is to use Renovateur and a thorough brushing. I've applied Kiwi Mid-Brown polish as well, but felt that it was cracking at the creases, and haven't been using polish since.

    What would you recommend in the future? Condition less often? Use a cream polish? And if that's a residue of oils being left behind as you suspect, what should I use to remove it?

    Thanks for your help!
     
  6. Irish

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    Email Shoe Bank (shoebank@allenedmonds.com) for the inventory of Seconds in your size(s).
    I ordered a pair of Brooks Bros. Fifth Ave. last week. $159, and no noticeable defects. Perfectly aligned captoe. I was happy. They also had a number of BB Strands available.
     
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  7. Winston S.

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    Seconds will not be on the AE website. You have to call or email the outlet stores to purchase them.



    +1.
     
  8. MoneyWellSpent

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    I think Cold Iron's advice above is great. Saddle soaping them to remove the build up would be a great place to start. After that, alot of it comes down to personal preference and what you hope to get from your boots. Cold Iron's advice may be right up your alley since it sounds like you are using them as true outdoor boots. I will default to his advice if that is your goal.

    I am a hunter myself, but for that I wear boots that are commonly found at regular sporting/outdoor goods stores that are made with fused rubber soles and Gore-tex. I beat the crap out of them walking in ankle deep mud and water, scratch them to death walking through green briar and anything else I may romp through. I hose them off and saddle soap them at the end of the season, then forget about them until the next season. I definitely don't approach my hunting boots anywhere near the way I do my AE's. About 18 years of hunting and I'm only on my second pair of hunting boots (and that is because my second pair was a gift rather than a need), so I just don't have much motivation at this point to see if there is a better route. [​IMG] Cold Iron's experience with his use of his boots will be far more valuable if you want to use them for outdoor purposes.

    For my Long Branches, which I wear for rainy days to work, and weekends around town with the family in the fall/winter, I have had great experience simply following AE's recommendation of Cleaner/Conditioner followed by Dark Brown Premium Polish. They shine up beautifully and I don't experience any issues with the cracking in the creases since it is a cream polish. I initially used saddle soap on them, but they began to take on a very dull look that didn't quite fit into the appearance goal that I had for them.
     
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  9. cbtaylor

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    With all this talk of black pants, wore my black westchesters recently with some black pants

    [​IMG]
     
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    Brown shoes - in any shade of brown - are a no-go 100% of the time with black slacks/suits.
     
  11. charliebrown2

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    wore my burgundy mccallisters with black slacks once

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    I probably won't be doing that again any time soon, but I don't really care. I'm not in an SF-style environment and if anything, only a few noticed. But yea, as far as I know, the "rule" is that black slacks go with black shoes 100% of the time.
     
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    Thanks a lot. Sounds like I need some Saddle Soap and some HDLP.
     
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    Thanks again! I wear these boots with tweed and flannel and the like, but when I'm going to be outdoors and in less-than-favourable weather. Definitely not in the same sort of rugged conditions you're describing, though.

    Thanks for your advice, gentlemen.
     
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    lol. I think I remember seeing Tom Browne break this "rule", too. Can't really adhere to fashion rules as they will sometimes get broken. Used to be that you shouldn't wear hunting jackets unless you were going hunting. Now, that's probably the exception.
     
  15. Deladonis

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    A email I need to save.(A man cut from the same cloth as I . I wear a 14.So it is real hard to find the AE's I want sometime. I Have a pair of Fairfaxs. I stumbled on a pair of Manhattans a couple of weeks ago and found the Greenwich's last week. I of course Have a pair of Westgate's on my list #1. I know that will be near impossible to find.As well as Austin's and Berkley's. From the mid to late 80's. I may as well add the Hastings and Weybridge that I have on my sub main list.My last few Wholecuts will be very hard to find. Takes me back to the sneaker hunting i would do in my youth. I am always open to any help people can give me to hunting down these elusive shoes. Happy hunting!)
     
  16. MrWN

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    Ah, I see. Thanks!

    Question: why do you refer to them in their BB names/alternative?
     
  17. MrWN

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    Ah, I see. Thanks!

    Question: why do you refer to them in their BB names/alternatives?
     
  18. AdamAdam

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    Urgent question: There's one Elgin left in my size after contacting one of the outlets. It's not listed as "Brooks Bros." but when I asked she said it is the BB model. I'm a 7.5E on the 5 last and many here have said that the different sole in the BB makes it fit differently. I don't have a lot of room in my McAllister in 7.5E so I'm worried if I get the same size in the BB Elgin it won't fit. The woman I'm emailing with insists it'll fit the same even if the sole is different.

    Thoughts? If I were to have her look for one in a different size would I go with 7.5EE, 8D, 8E??? I don't have the opportunity to try them on because they are "seconds" and not near me. I'm pretty sure the Elgin is on the 5 last, yea?

    EDIT: Also, while we're at it... is $179 a good price? It's listed as "Closeout" and I know there was some confusion earlier about the sale including Closeouts. It retails at BB for $298.

    Thanks!
     
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  19. Close Hoarse

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    You'll need to call one of their outlet stores.
    CH
     
  20. MoneyWellSpent

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    There are many who say that the shoe fits differently, but experiences vary from person to person. It is the Poron insole that is causing it to fit differently on many people. The sole (outsole) is different, but it has nothing to do with fit. AE stores are wonderful to deal with, so you can probably just relax, give it a shot if you want to, and return them if they don't fit. I haven't heard of any circumstances that would prevent you from returning them even though they are marked as a "closeout." They will even pay for shipping, so it really is a no-stress situation. Yes, the Elgin is on the 5-last, and $179 is a fantastic price. I say give it a shot, because they pretty much don't give you any reason not to.
     
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