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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread - reviews, pictures, sizing, etc...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mild Mannered, Sep 27, 2009.

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  1. ylkim30

    ylkim30 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. The 8 last is pretty tight across the toes. I'm not sure if it is tighter than the 5, but I would go up a width in the 8-last from your normal Brannock size.
     
  2. OptoDoc

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    I wear an 8.5D in the Vernon (8) and 8E in the Strand & McAllister (5) and all three are perfect fits. The best fit in the Kenilworth (5) was 7.5E, though it isn't optimal (I tried 8 different sizes, shame because I love this style). My Cliftons (8) are 8.5D, but they are a bit looser than the Vernon. I'm not sure if this is because they run a bit longer or because they have open lacing. I would like to get the Delray (8, open lacing) in the future and will probably order 8.5D and 8D to see which fits better. I also have the Hale (8) in 8.5E, but that was the only size available during a closeout sale. It fits fine with a superfeet insert.

    The 8 last is a bit tight on the pinky toe for about the first 5-7 wearings, but eventually they break in to a perfect fit for me.
     
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  3. microbrew

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    Thanks! Though i'm still not sure why BB doesn't say they're made by AE on their website for this specific shoe while it does for some others. Maybe AE doesn't make them anymore, but they used to, so thats why they are selling them from the AE outlets? Who knows. These are the ones i'm referring to.

    One more question - Do these types of sales happen often? When could I expect to see these prices again? I really shouldn't buy more than one pair at the moment but if I cant get this deal again until February I'd probably pull the trigger on two pairs.

    Thanks again.
     
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    I not sure about bit as ic not a fan of the shoe in general but I do wear a Rancourt in caramel shell penny loafer with shorts and one in espresso shell
     
  5. sevenfoldtieguy

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    Interesting ....

    If anything, I would put the 5 slightly more narrow than the 8, and the Kenilworth - a 5 lasted shoe - is the only 5 lasted shoe I have ever purchased that was actually too small/tight in both length and width in my normal 5 last size. I'm not a huge fan of the Kenilworth anyhow - so I sold them to a friend whose feet are a 1/2 size smaller than mine.

    The Delray is one of the best fitting shoes AE makes (for my foot anyway).
     
  6. MoneyWellSpent

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    Fear not, those are definitely AE's. I noticed way back when they first introduced them, they didn't mention AE initially. Later, they began marketing them as "Allen Edmonds expressly for Brooks Brothers" or something of that nature. The ones you are looking at are probably just remnants of the initial offerings.
     
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    No problem. I too find some Penny Loafers go well with shorts - e.g., brown calf/shell Patriot, whiskey or ravello LHS, etc.
     
  8. New Shoes1

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    I've logged many miles over the past 1.5 years in my Delrays, so they're not going to break in anymore. The perils of getting older as my foot has grown wider since I originally purchased the Delrays. Sizing up to an E width is also not an option for me as my heel swims in the shoe. I've come to accept that I should not buy any more 8 last shoes and the 1 and 5 last are as narrow as I go.
     
  9. kmdsimpson

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    Yes, it should be standard service at any good shoe store.

    You'll hear people reference a "Brannock" device. This is a metal shoe measuring thinagmajig. This is what you want them to measure you with. Every shoe store has one, as do shoe departments in good department stores. if you don't have an AE near you, you can even go to a Johnston and Murphy.

    Totally standard procedure. Don't feel like you're putting anyone out by asking for this.
     
  10. DerangedGoose

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    Literally all I have right now is a pair of black kenilworths, so these would be a nice way to round out the collection. They both cost the same as seconds from AE, and I have no idea how either one will fit (if the brooks strand is on the 5 last like my kenilworths, that can be expected to be similar).



    I must say the brooks pictures are absolutely awful, they make the leather look like polished/corrected grain...
     
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    Would you choose the Jefferson at $249 over the Mcallister at the seconds price? Not sure what that is right now, but I gotta assume they are close.
     
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    The Jefferson is esentially the McAllister but nicer, so if they're comparable, I'd go for Jeff.
     
  13. OptoDoc

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    The Kenilworth is an odd bird. It just doesn't fit like any other 5 last shoe. There is not a single combination that fits me well in the heel and toe. Easily the least comfortable pair of AE I have. If they fit exactly like my strands, I'd purchase every color.
     
  14. ScottyBoy920

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    Looking at my latest price sheet from the Shoebank, I dont see the Jeffersons being that cheap. Hmmm
     
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    A little unsure about sizing after a trip to Allen Edmonds in D.C. yesterday, and it's going to be a pain to ship back and forth:

    I have a difficult foot to fit. The area around my ankles is very bony and I often have slippage because of it. Because of this, I have a hard time finding shoes that allow for a gap in the eyelets when laced.

    I tried on the strand in a 13 C and it felt too loose around the ankle area. The SA laced them so there was a finger's width but it could have been laced more to fit more snug in the ankle, which would have resulted in the eyelets touching. The 13B felt a lot better, still somewhat loose, but my problem was more in the front of the right shoe where I felt some slight pressure along the outside of my big toe. I'm not sure if it's a problem or if I'm just conscious of it. More importantly, what are my options if the next size up, 13C, is too lose in the ankle area? 14 AAA?AA? B?
     
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    Would AE's Premium Shoe Polish be an acceptable substitute for their shoe cream?

    I have a Walnut Sanford and Chili Delray coming in, but I do not see their shoe cream in those colors.

    Also, is it recommended to use their Neutral Carnauba Wax Polish for those colors? AE's Carnauba Wax does not come in Walnut/Chili.

    Typically, I will be using 4 different products for care:
    1. Leather and Conditioner (AE)
    2. Shoe Cream or Premium Shoe Polish (AE)
    3. Carnauba Wax Polish (AE)
    4. Heel and Sole Edge Dressing (AE)

    Seeing as how I am tight on time and money, I'd prefer to get the shoe care products directly from AE.
     
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    I too gave up on the 8 last. The 5 last is my favorite and I feel that I have even more room in it than the 1 last. Although the 1 fits me very well also. My TTS is 10D and I tried the Clifton in 10D, 10.5D, and 9.5E, the fit was less than perfect in all sizes, in E my heel also swims in all lasts, so I finally came to the conclusion that the 8 is just not going to work with my feet.
     
  18. Cold Iron

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    In my experience yes, the Premium Shoe Polish contains enough cream that you can do without the dedicated cream. The Carnauba Wax polish will give a higher shine but the shine with the Premium Shoe Polish is acceptable IMO for most shoes.
     
  19. MoneyWellSpent

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    I agree with Cold Iron. I think the Premium Polish is the perfect middle ground.

    It's more complicated than this, but to keep things simple, try to think of the three products like this:

    1. Shoe Cream = highest dye content, highest moisturizer/conditioner content, lowest wax content
    2. Premium Polish = middle dye content, middle moisturizer/conditioner content, middle wax content
    3. Carnuba Wax = lowest dye content, lowest moisturizer/conditioner content, highest wax content

    For most people, they want their shoes to have an attractive shine, while keeping the leather properly colored and conditioned. The Premium Polish is the best at this in one product and is perfect for the average user. If you want a more mirror like shine, bring in the Carnuba wax to be added on top of one of the other products. Don't use it alone, because it doesn't have enough conditioning agents to keep your leather healthy.
     
  20. Cold Iron

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    The AE for BB shoes are recraftable. It is the RL shoes that are not. The AE Italian line can be recrafted but not with the original Italian soles.
     
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