DJTraveler
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Could someone please help me on this. Is the only difference between the Clifton and the Kenilworth is the captoe and broguing on the Clifton? Kenilworth is the plain version of it?
The Kenilworth looks a little chiseled at the toe, is this true?
I can't decide between AE's or Meermin's classic line...
Thank you.
Would you say the same for the BB strand?
It too has poron instead of cork.
Pretty sure both have cork midsoles.
Nope. Spoke to the AE factory and store and both said the Brooks Bros versions had poron instead of cork and in addition also had a topy half sole.
I believe you mean to say that it has poron instead of a leather insole. The midsole, or the section that would be visible upon removing the leather outsole (and sole guard), would still be cork. At least, that's how I heard it.
That seems to be the consensus. It is obvious from viewing the BB vs. AE shoes that the insole is different and I believe everything below that is the same, excepting the rubber topy on the BB.
You know you might be right. I just called Adam from the outlet to ask about this but he didn't know..
Where did you get this info from?
If you're right it would only make me love the shoe that much more.
I can't exactly pin down a source, but you could follow this line of thought...
-BB makes no mention of midsole, only the insole.
-AE offers the same shoe design from their website.
-AE allows you to customize the shoe by adding a combination sole like the BB version.
-AE allows you to customize the shoe by replacing the leather insole with poron like the BB version.
-AE constructs shoes with a cork midsole (applied hot).
-AE does not allow you to choose a different midsole, even if you call.
I think it would be odd to have a poron midsole, and I doubt AE modified their fabrication process to include one.
Also, if you search the internet for information on AE for BB shoes having cork midsoles, there will be plenty of references, including statements that the cork would mold to the wearer's foot (like the regular AE).
Can't believe I missed the Shoebank sale again. Is there a mailing list so that I can stay informed?
Can't believe I missed the Shoebank sale again. Is there a mailing list so that I can stay informed?
... This void has to be filled, and cork is considered the standard filler. It has the best characteristics to serve this purpose, and all goodyear-welted shoes by all brands at the AE level and above use it. Poron is more expensive than cork, so it would make little sense that they would substitute it as a void filler...
Yeah, my outside pics look close to walnut, while my inside pic looks pretty brown. I think it's fair to say they're pretty in between.
I have so few shoes that I still need to diversify and so wouldn't get the same shoe in "adjacent" colors, but for those that already have one of everything they might be a nice addition.
That's exactly what I was saying. I'm surprised it's still a question for some people, but everyone learns about shoe construction at their own pace.
The sale actually ended over the weekend and has been supplanted by a much less impressive 15% off sale. The posters above found a nice salesperson somewhere who would still honor the $130 Sanderson price. If interested, you might want to jump on them.
As a follow up, the shoe bank is out of the McAllisters in my size. The salesman advised that I try to find a good shoe shine guy and send them back if he couldn't take care of it. Given the picture above, does repair seem remotely possible? For $130, I could almost go for some sort of redye experiment. I imagine there has to be someone in Manhattan competent for that sort of thing.