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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is the name of your channel?
It is a great YouTube channel. I’m disappointed my fellow AE enthusiasts aren’t already subscribed.

 

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I’m having an issue with poron insoles and wondering if the forum has any advice. After the shoes came back from re-crafting the insole started sliding off the heel and bunching at the centre of my foot, creating a ridge inside the shoes. The insole is glued down and I don’t think I can safely remove it and glue it myself without tearing either the insole or the footbed. I’m thinking of asking my cobbler but curious if anyone else has suffered this issue?
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Could you slice at the ripple and re-glue with Master’s All Purpose Cement? I’ve had great luck re-gluing sock liners in Florsheims this summer.
 

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I’ve had that happen to a couple pairs, including a Brooks MacNeil. It sucks, but should be an easy fix for a cobbler. Some would argue you could fix yourself with Barge cement, but I prefer to have it set for a while using a press.
Thanks much. I’m utterly useless with my hands, which is why I am a lawyer. If I try to fix it myself I will inevitably make it worse and end up at the cobbler.

As for construction, is the poron insole sitting on top of the same leather insole that would be in a regular pair of AEs? Is there a footbed below that or cork?
 

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As for construction, is the poron insole sitting on top of the same leather insole that would be in a regular pair of AEs? Is there a footbed below that or cork?
I know that the shoes are lasted with the poron inside the shoe. Paul came on some forum years ago to state this. People thought the poron was added on top of the footbed after lasting, but that isn't the case. Still, it can affect fit (sometimes). I saw someone once remove the poron and below it was some kind of white midsole. Underneath that, there is cork (at least for the models like the Leeds 2.0, MacNeil 2.0, etc.). I can't speak on the newer models that might differ.
 

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I’m having an issue with poron insoles and wondering if the forum has any advice. After the shoes came back from re-crafting the insole started sliding off the heel and bunching at the centre of my foot, creating a ridge inside the shoes. The insole is glued down and I don’t think I can safely remove it and glue it myself without tearing either the insole or the footbed. I’m thinking of asking my cobbler but curious if anyone else has suffered this issue?
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That leather cover will have wings in the fore part of the shoe. Did AE do the recraft? I have taken one off a pair with no issues.
 

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I know that the shoes are lasted with the poron inside the shoe. Paul came on some forum years ago to state this. People thought the poron was added on top of the footbed after lasting, but that isn't the case. Still, it can affect fit (sometimes). I saw someone once remove the poron and below it was some kind of white midsole. Underneath that, there is cork (at least for the models like the Leeds 2.0, MacNeil 2.0, etc.). I can't speak on the newer models that might differ.
It is Texon, fancy word for cardboard.
 

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Could you slice at the ripple and re-glue with Master’s All Purpose Cement? I’ve had great luck re-gluing sock liners in Florsheims this summer.
Maybe, but if there is any overlap you will feel it. I would think also that making the cut will invite further trouble down the line, but I’m fairly OCD, so ymmv.
 

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I know that the shoes are lasted with the poron inside the shoe. Paul came on some forum years ago to state this. People thought the poron was added on top of the footbed after lasting, but that isn't the case. Still, it can affect fit (sometimes). I saw someone once remove the poron and below it was some kind of white midsole. Underneath that, there is cork (at least for the models like the Leeds 2.0, MacNeil 2.0, etc.). I can't speak on the newer models that might differ.
Agree with this. I do remember someone here talking about removing it from a pair a few years back, so it can be done, but might require an insole afterward.

FWIW, I find that I have to size up in length or width for those Brooks models with Poron, lasting process notwithstanding.
 

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I know that the shoes are lasted with the poron inside the shoe. Paul came on some forum years ago to state this. People thought the poron was added on top of the footbed after lasting, but that isn't the case. Still, it can affect fit (sometimes). I saw someone once remove the poron and below it was some kind of white midsole. Underneath that, there is cork (at least for the models like the Leeds 2.0, MacNeil 2.0, etc.). I can't speak on the newer models that might differ.
Agree with this. I do remember someone here talking about removing it from a pair a few years back, so it can be done, but might require an insole afterward.

FWIW, I find that I have to size up in length or width for those Brooks models with Poron, lasting process notwithstanding.
Same here…ultimately never kept the BB AE’s because of the sizing issue with poron.
 

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Agree with this. I do remember someone here talking about removing it from a pair a few years back, so it can be done, but might require an insole afterward.

FWIW, I find that I have to size up in length or width for those Brooks models with Poron, lasting process notwithstanding.
I got lucky with this pair. They were actually the shoes that started my AE obsession, and I didn't even know they were AEs. I bought them from Brooks Brothers at size 8.5, but this particular pair run large, so even with poron and my usual size being 9D, they fit great, if not a touch large. I loved them so much that last year I bought another pair on eBay in 8.5, and they are too tight. One of the perils of buying on eBay.

@Shoenut - They were recrafted by AE in 2019 but I didn't wear them until this summer.

What are the leather cover with wings? Is that the part that covers in instep?

@Vincent George - I don't think slicing will work. It seems the poron insole is sliding at the heel but the poron insole is holding tight from the mid foot through the toe. So even if I cut it, the sliding part will continue to bunch where it is firmly in place.
 

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