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I think (and that’s ultimately what matters) these look great and they fit just like any other (properly sized) 65 last shoe.

Quick and dirty photos on the foot:




Even in full exaggerated step, they break nicely:


Now for brutal truth:

I’m sorry to say, for some people, even with 4 grand custom lasted bespoke wonders, wholecuts just don’t work:

(Apologies to “The Shoe Snob”.)
They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am glad you are holding a 65 last wholecut. I just think the last is not right for that style.
 

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Carbon in different lights.
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Well, I think the 65 is “right for that style”. Which is why I’m now going to subject you to more 65 last wholecut action:

(87 Dover)

I do see where Shiner is coming from...the 65 is a great classic last for Strand/PA, but it does feel a little bulbous or something through the ball of foot area. Of course, since most of the wholecuts we see are Italian and whatnot, with their really sleek and styled lasts, it's easy to feel like the AE ones are lacking. I think that a more chiseled and sculpted last is probably a bit better for the style...the 1943 might make a good candidate for instance. I think the Alden Plaza wholecuts work, for example.

That said, I'd be proud to own that pair as they are a nice looking shoe!
 

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I do see where Shiner is coming from...the 65 is a great classic last for Strand/PA, but it does feel a little bulbous or something through the ball of foot area. Of course, since most of the wholecuts we see are Italian and whatnot, with their really sleek and styled lasts, it's easy to feel like the AE ones are lacking. I think that a more chiseled and sculpted last is probably a bit better for the style...the 1943 might make a good candidate for instance. I think the Alden Plaza wholecuts work, for example.

That said, I'd be proud to own that pair as they are a nice looking shoe!
I guess the issue is that my idea of a wholecut is formed from the traditional English notion of a highly conservative formal shoe. To be blunt, I absolutely do not like most Italian (or, for that matter, continental) lasted shoes (older conservative Ferragamo styles, which I own, not withstanding), especially the overly pointy toed or chiseled-toe stuff mated to a high vamp (which simply doesn’t work for my low instep, low-volume feet).

But hey, that’s just like, you know, my opinion man.
 

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I guess the issue is that my idea of a wholecut is formed from the traditional English notion of a highly conservative formal shoe. To be blunt, I absolutely do not like most Italian (or, for that matter, continental) lasted shoes (older conservative Ferragamo styles, which I own, not withstanding), especially the overly pointy toed or chiseled-toe stuff mated to a high vamp (which simply doesn’t work for my low instep, low-volume feet).

But hey, that’s just like, you know, my opinion man.
Totally get that! My feet do not mesh well with that style either. Lower volume, “rectangular” wide feet, as the girlfriend calls them. And, most Italian shoes are way too sculpted, but them being the “standard” affects perceptions. In the same way that Leidens look off to me being flat welt and 1943 last rather than a big chunky Florsheim LWB.
 

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A little help from my friends...are these shell cordovan MacNeils or leather? I can't tell if the seller is unscrupulous or accidentally misdescribring the shoes.

As already noted, they are calf. Note the fine lines in the fold of the vamps. Shell would simply roll and never makes these tiny or fine lined wrinkles.

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