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Not sure what is the traditional version but oxblood FA are amazing looking.I don't get why they discontinued oxblood for the McAllister but kept it for the Fifth Avenue. I think that the classic AE combination for those styles would be this:
Black PA
Dark brown or dark chili FA
Walnut (or bourbon/copper) Strand
Oxblood or merlot McAllister
Sure, it's not a biggie to switch out the FA and the McAllister, but the most classic option was burgundy for the full brogue, not the quarter-brogue.
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Is the middle boot natural color? It seems VERY lighter shade than the current AE website shows for natural.
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It's interesting how everyone here seems to want the lighter version whereas I am specifically interested in the darker version.That middle shot is the best natural Higgins photo I've ever seen. I think it was posted by a former member here by the name of middlep or similar. He sure hit the jackpot and the photo was taken perfectly.
There was a lot of variation in the original natural, and that might have something to do with why it's not available at AE and Alden anymore. Here's another shot of a different pair of the original color. Notice how this pair is so dark that they used a dark brown suede tongue instead of beige. These are not mine:
It's interesting how everyone here seems to want the lighter version whereas I am specifically interested in the darker version.
Put me on the same list. I prefer the darker ones.It's interesting how everyone here seems to want the lighter version whereas I am specifically interested in the darker version.
Not sure what is the traditional version but oxblood FA are amazing looking.
I have 3 of those 4 (all but the oxblood 5A), and all are classic AE shoes. My black Parks and Dark Chili McAllisters are my two more frequently worn pairs. That dark chili McA works with a LOT of odd jacket trouser combos. The walnut Strand is a classic also, but for me the color does not work in the dark-cold months, so it is a 6 month shoe. The others are year rounders.
Yep the middle is original natty, but it darkens quickly to look closer to the last photo, a nice mid-brown. Wearing my OG natty Mills today in fact.
I'm not a dress sneaker guy at all--so take the following for what its worth--and I understand even less the dress sneaker that completely conceals its "sneaker-ness." Unlike its white cup soled brethren, which cannot be mistaken even from a distance, this "sneaker" could pass for a normal dress shoe, unless you look closely. And when you look closely..... If you have to Try Hard to make your sneaker not look like a sneaker, whats the point? Maybe you don't want a sneaker.
If you like the look pictured above ^, a burgundy shell or oxblood Park GYW is the real mccoy and will serve you well for a decade or two at least, unlike that cup soled jobby.
I promise I am not trying to stir the pot here... but I'd love to understand AEs thinking about why they decided to make the PA and Strand sneakers instead of a Leeds sneaker. I feel like a Leeds sneaker would be much less controversial. I probably stil would not buy one because, like you, it's just not really my thing. If I am wearing sneakers I am wearing real sneakers that are light, super flexible, etc. I don't wear sneakers casually. So I'm not really the target market. But I still not get the choice of closed lace sneakers. Another option that might work better is a U-tip blucher. I don't think AE has really a model that's quite what I have in mind but something like that I think would work better as a sneaker also vs. the PA and strand.
I'd be curious if the Leeds are even selling to younger men these days. Are they seen as too fuddy duddy to them? I say this as a big fan of the Leeds.
Relative to the PA?
I don't get why they discontinued oxblood for the McAllister but kept it for the Fifth Avenue. I think that the classic AE combination for those styles would be this:
Black PA
Dark brown or dark chili FA
Walnut (or bourbon/copper) Strand
Oxblood or merlot McAllister
Sure, it's not a biggie to switch out the FA and the McAllister, but the most classic option was burgundy for the full brogue, not the quarter-brogue.
Not sure what is the traditional version but oxblood FA are amazing looking.
If you ask me, oxblood is going to look better than dark chili on any model.
I'd be curious if the Leeds are even selling to younger men these days. Are they seen as too fuddy duddy to them? I say this as a big fan of the Leeds.
Relative to the PA?
Very funny both of you.Got me there.