Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2020 - News, Pictures, Clothing, Accessories, etc.

[NYCTechNerd]

Do you hate American auto companies as well then? They don't have a great history of treating employees well. Do you buy your meat only from a farmer? Meat factories have a bad reputation as well. The list goes on... I'm sure I could find something or someone you purchase from that has a bad reputation when it comes to workers.

At least they do not union-bust like Amazon.

 

[DoubleOldFashioned]

What you're describing is "whataboutism" and that's not what I'm doing. I'm actually asking you if you're a hypocrite or not.

 

[OldTown]

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If you think calling you a hypocrite because you fail to live up to your own ideals based on purchasing habits is the same thing as a debate on society as a whole then you're hopeless.

Attacking the accuser rather than making a logical counterpoint is a sign of a losing side.

 

[OldTown]

At least they do not union-bust like Amazon.

You are going to argue that the US auto industry and factory food industries don't have a record of union busting? That's a hill you're willing to die on? Ok...

I'm assuming someone with a name like NYCTechNerd probably works in the tech industry. Of all the people who want to lecture about unions, someone working in the tech industry should be the last to throw stones.

 

[DoubleOldFashioned]

If you think calling you a hypocrite because you fail to live up to your own ideals based on purchasing habits is the same thing as a debate on society as a whole then you're hopeless.

Attacking the accuser rather than making a logical counterpoint is a sign of a losing side.

You’re engaging in a tu quoque argument, and the cartoon shows an example.
“How can you be against Amazon’s business practices when you use these other businesses that have terrible practices,” is not an actual defense of Amazon’s terrible treatment of their workers. It’s just deflection.
Hope this helps.
Edit: Instead of this page becoming the comments section on Facebook or YouTube, feel free to DM me to continue this conversation. No one else really cares about this stuff.

 

[ProfilaBinding]

Woah, what did I walk into today?

 

[OldTown]

You’re engaging in a tu quoque argument, and the cartoon shows an example.
“How can you be against Amazon’s business practices when you use these other businesses that have terrible practices,” is not an actual defense of Amazon’s terrible treatment if their workers. It’s just deflection.
Hope this helps.

So you're basically admitting that you're a hypocrite.

 

[audog]

Woah, what did I walk into today?

Well, it ain't footwear.

 

[Roycru]

Woah, what did I walk into today?

Perhaps people who do not share your enthusiasm for Universities.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

The Bezos and Amazon hate people have these days is some of the most irrational thing I've seen. Amazon lowering prices to compete (which makes other large retailers like Target and Walmart do the same) is a good thing for the customer. We live in a global age with the internet, it's time people move on from the "mom & pop" idea. It's dead like the USSR and ska music.

people care about AMZN’s anti competitive practices

i don’t think there is any data to support the contention AMZN forces others to lower prices because Walmart’s prices are already 34% lower. AMZN’s model is based on convenience not price (in fact it’s the convenience that creates pricing power)

How Walmart keeps its prices so low

Walmart is known for its low prices. Here's how the retail giant does it.

www.businessinsider.com

So you're basically admitting that you're a hypocrite.

Your argument shouldn’t be that he’s a hypocrite, it should be that his objections indicate a problem with corporate America generally rather than AMZN specifically

i have no issues with Bezos or AMZN in general

apologies for the OT, back to shoes

 

[jet-stream]

Woah, what did I walk into today?

I can’t say for sure (have only seen part of the very OT conversation), but perhaps a realization that you have been under-utilizing the “ignore” feature?

 

[joman8390]

@ProfilaBinding

your enthusiasm and case for the university has me thinking about ordering a pair. However, the chili ones available online say they are on the 333 last, do you think that is correct or were all the chili built on the 1943?

thanks!

 

[madhat]

My O(n)T contribution:

in other news, they fished the truck out. It was dark, so no pic. Maybe it’ll be there later!

 

[NYCTechNerd]

You are going to argue that the US auto industry and factory food industries don't have a record of union busting? That's a hill you're willing to die on? Ok...

I'm assuming someone with a name like NYCTechNerd probably works in the tech industry. Of all the people who want to lecture about unions, someone working in the tech industry should be the last to throw stones.

It appeared that we were all having an intelligent discussion with differing viewpoints until you started to make it personal with others, and now me in your latest response, because people do not necessarily agree with your viewpoint. If you want to continue with this childish behavior I will not be a part of it but if you can be part of the discussion without making it personal, or slinging personal attacks, I will be happy to engage going forward.

And as for your assumption about me, you know what they say about assumptions: It makes an a$$ out of you (but not me). I try to minimize personal information on public forums but I will share that I have never worked for a technology company such as Apple, Facebook, Google, etc. and I am not a billionaire (or even hundred millionaire). I have worked in corporate roles at advertising and new media companies as well as k-12 schools and institutions of higher education over a career that spans 25+ years.

 

[madhat]

It appeared that we were all having an intelligent discussion with differing viewpoints until you started to make it personal with others, and now me in your latest response, because people do not necessarily agree with your viewpoint. If you want to continue with this childish behavior I will not be a part of it but if you can be part of the discussion without making it personal, or slinging personal attacks, I will be happy to engage going forward.

And as for your assumption about me, you know what they say about assumptions: It makes an a$$ out of you (but not me). I try to minimize personal information on public forums but I will share that I have never worked for a technology company such as Apple, Facebook, Google, etc. and I am not a billionaire (or even hundred millionaire). I have worked in corporate roles at advertising and new media companies as well as k-12 schools and institutions of higher education over a career that spans 25+ years.

Oh, see I thought you were just a Texas Tech fan living in NYC