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tcbinnc

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Hi all,

Long time lurker, first time poster here. Now that I’ve amassed a four shoe collection, thought I’d survey y’all for advice on my next pair. Currently, I have Walnut Lexingtons, Chili Boulevards, Bourbon Fifth Aves (they are pretty dark), and Black Fifth Aves.

I was thinking an oxblood wingtip was the next logical progression? I wear business casual (leaning more towards professional) mostly during the week, with a suit a couple of times a month. Thoughts?
First off, welcome! Secondly, upon your mention of, "leaning more towards professional", my immediate thought was burgundy over oxblood but really depends on your overall look and color scheme and what you mean by what I quoted above. I myself own two pair in oxblood, Cavanaugh and MacNeil. The first is almost ruby red like Dorothy's slippers while the second is more toned down, but still, red. I guess I am equating "professional" with conservative but which for you may not be the case?
 
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Uh oh, Strand King...

Oh, almost everyday I check the "new" drop down menu in the top left. Then scroll down to "shoes and boots". You will find their newest offerings by doing that.

I don't know why, but this navy Strand looks much better with the white (silver?) laces than the navy Strandmok. Something about it just works better. Maybe because of the white contrast stitching?
Interesting, I had the same reaction. Tinsel Strand, wow! Tinsel Hamilton, something's off... Perhaps it's that the lacing is not so dense? Thinking of picking one of these up, but something makes me wish they were navy/white spectators. They've released so many new holiday styles, maybe it'll happen!
 

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As much as I like holiday styles in the abstract, can I really justify dropping 250+ dollars on a pair of shoes whose novelty wears out on December 26th?

The blue strands are nice (even though I'm not Jewish which presumably they are meant to be for?) but I am a little unimpressed with the leather, which seems tumbled, which I think might be oddly too casual for the strand?

Still, I am tempted because blue shoes = cool.

But yeah, if the Santa shoes were more like, a more vibrant green and a more traditional burgundy, I think I could get behind them as an odd choice for the rest of the year, too.
 

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Hi all,

Long time lurker, first time poster here. Now that I’ve amassed a four shoe collection, thought I’d survey y’all for advice on my next pair. Currently, I have Walnut Lexingtons, Chili Boulevards, Bourbon Fifth Aves (they are pretty dark), and Black Fifth Aves.

I was thinking an oxblood wingtip was the next logical progression? I wear business casual (leaning more towards professional) mostly during the week, with a suit a couple of times a month. Thoughts?
I mean, an Oxblood McCallister would seem to fill a hole for you in terms of both color and style and they are on sale so . . . .
Of course you have like the color and style. You have 4 shoes, all cap toe shoes--do you like wingtips? What about a plain-toe shoe?
 

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As much as I like holiday styles in the abstract, can I really justify dropping 250+ dollars on a pair of shoes whose novelty wears out on December 26th?

The blue strands are nice (even though I'm not Jewish which presumably they are meant to be for?) but I am a little unimpressed with the leather, which seems tumbled, which I think might be oddly too casual for the strand?

Still, I am tempted because blue shoes = cool.

But yeah, if the Santa shoes were more like, a more vibrant green and a more traditional burgundy, I think I could get behind them as an odd choice for the rest of the year, too.
I do not think these are meant to be Jewish/Hanukah/Maccabee shoes. When one uses words such as Frosty, Tinsel, Claus, Holly, Jingle Bell, and Rudolph it often depicts Christmas 🎅🎄🤶(and not a Jewish Holiday🕎).

 

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Anybody up for a little SAT/Word-Play this morning?

If Strand (finished leather, flat welt, toe cap with medallion, 65, MUSA) is to Strandmok (rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, toe cap with medallion, 65, MUSA),

And if McAllister (finished leather, flat welt, wing tip with medallion, 65, MUSA) is to Neumok (rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, wing tip with medallion, 65, Imported),

What is the McTavish (finished leather or rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, wing tip with medallion, 201, MUSA)? Is the McTavish the 201 version of both the McAllister and Neumok?

To further confuse matters:
  • Is the Hopkinson the 201 version of the Park Avenue?
  • Is the Bartlett the 201 version of the Strand?
  • Then what is the 201 version of the Fifth Avenue?
  • And why is the Neumok imported when all others are MUSA?
  • And why did they call it Neumok? Wouldn't McMok or Allistermok or even McAllistermok have been a better choice?

*** I am sick in bed, thankfully not C19, cold medicine is making me a little woozy, and apparently that has made me hyper focus on shoes and SF posts yesterday and today ***
 
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Hi all,

Long time lurker, first time poster here. Now that I’ve amassed a four shoe collection, thought I’d survey y’all for advice on my next pair. Currently, I have Walnut Lexingtons, Chili Boulevards, Bourbon Fifth Aves (they are pretty dark), and Black Fifth Aves.

I was thinking an oxblood wingtip was the next logical progression? I wear business casual (leaning more towards professional) mostly during the week, with a suit a couple of times a month. Thoughts?
Welcome! Seems you've got enough cap-toes for a bit, so a wingtip would be a nice for a change of pace. Business casual leaning towards professional might suggest something closer to brown than red; maybe burgundy for a bit of both. (Love the avatar! ;))
 

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Anybody up for a little SAT/Word-Play this morning?

If Strand (finished leather, flat welt, toe cap with medallion, 65, MUSA) is to Strandmok (rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, toe cap with medallion, 65, MUSA),

And if McAllister (finished leather, flat welt, wing tip with medallion, 65, MUSA) is to Neumok (rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, wing tip with medallion, 65, Imported),

What is the McTavish (finished leather or rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, wing tip with medallion, 201, MUSA)? Is the McTavish the 201 version of both the McAllister and Neumok?

To further confuse matters:
  • Is the Hopkinson the 201 version of the Park Avenue?
  • Is the Bartlett the 201 version of the Strand?
  • Then what is the 201 version of the Fifth Avenue?
  • And why is the Neumok imported when all others are MUSA?
  • And why did they call it Neumok? Wouldn't McMok or Allistermok or even McAllistermok have been a better choice?

*** I am sick in bed, thankfully not C19, cold medicine is making me a little woozy, and apparently that has made me hyper focus on shoes and SF posts yesterday and today ***
If I'm not mistaken, the Hopkinson and Bartlett are both just better quality versions of the PA and Strand and are on different lasts (personally I prefer the 65 as my Jefferson doesnt fit as well as my 65 lasted shoes).

I will say the inner lining is significantly better quality and much softer than the typical 65 last models as they use an ultra soft lamb skin.
 
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Anybody up for a little SAT/Word-Play this morning?

If Strand (finished leather, flat welt, toe cap with medallion, 65, MUSA) is to Strandmok (rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, toe cap with medallion, 65, MUSA),

And if McAllister (finished leather, flat welt, wing tip with medallion, 65, MUSA) is to Neumok (rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, wing tip with medallion, 65, Imported),

What is the McTavish (finished leather or rough leather or suede, split reverse welt, wing tip with medallion, 201, MUSA)? Is the McTavish the 201 version of both the McAllister and Neumok?

To further confuse matters:
  • Is the Hopkinson the 201 version of the Park Avenue?
  • Is the Bartlett the 201 version of the Strand?
  • Then what is the 201 version of the Fifth Avenue?
  • And why is the Neumok imported when all others are MUSA?
  • And why did they call it Neumok? Wouldn't McMok or Allistermok or even McAllistermok have been a better choice?

*** I am sick in bed, thankfully not C19, cold medicine is making me a little woozy, and apparently that has made me hyper focus on shoes and SF posts yesterday and today ***
If I'm not mistaken, the Hopkinson and Bartlett are both just better quality versions of the PA and Strand and are on different lasts (personally I prefer the 65 as my Jefferson doesnt fit as well as my 65 lasted shoes.

I will say the inner lining is significantly better quality and much softer than the typical 65 last models as they use an ultra soft lamb skin.
Okay, so you helped answer some of my questions:
  • Jefferson is the 201/Independence version of McAllister (wing tip with medallion)
  • Bartlett is the 201/Independence version of the Strand (cap toe with medallion)
  • Hopkinson is the 201/Independence version of the Park Avenue (cap toe)

But still what about these?
  • Is the Hopkinson the 201 version of the Park Avenue?
  • Is the Bartlett the 201 version of the Strand?
  • Then what is the 201 version of the Fifth Avenue?
  • And why is the Neumok imported when all others are MUSA?
  • And why did they call it Neumok? Wouldn't McMok or Allistermok or even McAllistermok have been a better choice?
 

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Okay, so you helped answer some of my questions:
  • Jefferson is the 201/Independence version of McAllister (wing tip with medallion)
  • Bartlett is the 201/Independence version of the Strand (cap toe with medallion)
  • Hopkinson is the 201/Independence version of the Park Avenue (cap toe)

But still what about these?
  • Is the Hopkinson the 201 version of the Park Avenue?
  • Is the Bartlett the 201 version of the Strand?
  • Then what is the 201 version of the Fifth Avenue?
  • And why is the Neumok imported when all others are MUSA?
  • And why did they call it Neumok? Wouldn't McMok or Allistermok or even McAllistermok have been a better choice?
I don't believe they ever made a FA version for the Independence line.
 

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Sorry for the extra post on this, but I feel the real question got lost in my long winded other post

Can anyone comment if these extra stitching holes affect the structural integrity of the shoes?

These are Williamsburg’s and it’s hardly noticeable from anything more than 2-3ft away. Looks like whoever was making them forgot to take the turn and backed up quick to fix

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