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I agree with you Tech. Neither of these are very formal boots. They could all be worn with sports coats, but I wouldn't pair any of them with a three piece suit (at least once you're at work/social gathering - you might be able to wear them in bad weather TO the place).

Grained calf is more casual and open lacing, especially with flat shoe laces, are definitely less formal than closed lacing (oxford) with round, waxed laces. Plus, the latter is a plain toe, and plain toe is less formal than cap toe.

The most formal boot is the button boot. This is acceptable with black tie (but no one owns them anymore). There are dress boots now that look fine with suits as well. Is it calf? Is it an oxford or chelsea boot? Does it have a cap toe? Ask yourself these questions to determine the degree of formality.
Seriously?

My boots are black.
And they’re made of bison, not grained calf.
With open lacing, flat laces, brass eyelets, brogueing and pinking, reverse welt, natural sole edges, and rubber lugged soles, I’m not sure how much formal they could be.
Did I mention that they are black?
 

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Are those laces the ones that came with the shoes or replacements?
No, the chili McAlister/Cambridge shipped with AE's standard dark brown laces. These laces are branded as Miserly, I got them from some no-name online vendor, sorry I can't recall which one.
 

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I wear 11.5 b in cornwallis/exchange/1943 last and the liverpool suede and calf I have in the same size fit well. A little more roomy but still a good fit.
Yours is too narrow or too short?
very narrow and extremely tight through the instep. Now I’m really confused that you say you had a good fit. I wonder if they mislabelled these.
 

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very narrow and extremely tight through the instep. Now I’m really confused that you say you had a good fit. I wonder if they mislabelled these.
I’m an 11.5 B in most AE lasts. And the suede Liverpool’s took a few days to stretch out to be comfortable. Started really tight
 

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very narrow and extremely tight through the instep. Now I’m really confused that you say you had a good fit. I wonder if they mislabelled these.
I had same issue as you. My normal size in Liverpool is a no go.
 

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Another rainy day means more rain shoes. Love the Rudolph for these times.
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Seriously?

My boots are black.
And they’re made of bison, not grained calf.
With open lacing, flat laces, brass eyelets, brogueing and pinking, reverse welt, natural sole edges, and rubber lugged soles, I’m not sure how much formal they could be.
Did I mention that they are black?
God, I am sorry: that is insanely formal.

It's opera pumps and then those boots.
 

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very narrow and extremely tight through the instep. Now I’m really confused that you say you had a good fit. I wonder if they mislabelled these.
I’m an 11.5 B in most AE lasts. And the suede Liverpool’s took a few days to stretch out to be comfortable. Started really tight
Interesting. Suede Liverpool’s in my normal B width and size fit perfectly. Like they were built for my feet. I have very flat feet, flat on top as well as bottom
 
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