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This is where that device gets tricky. Both feet have a ball length of 9.5. But foot length is 8 and 9. Width at 9.5 is a D on the left but a heavy C on the right. Personally I would not go shorter than a 8.5. I think the right foot would get hammered in a 8. If I was fitting those measurements I would be 9C maybe or 8.5D. I have very similar measurements and wear 9.5B or 9.5C. But I am .5 longer in length and one width smaller at the ball. Can you find a 9C in a 65 last and have him try it on? The vintage Florsheim 93602 fits a little narrower than the 65 last with about the same length. The cone is a little lower also. At the end of the day he has to be comfortable and I have no idea if he is used to a looser or tighter fit. But I would at least start at 8.5 and see how that fits.
Is he flat footed? That would change how we respond to the arch measurement, and could explain why he was swimming in them.
 

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Wait...a guy is asking folks to wear pink to raise awareness of a disease that took his wife’s life, and you’re telling him that what he is asking is just “virtue signaling nonsense“?

This is truly one of the most remarkable exchanges I’ve read on here.You could’ve ignored it, but you made the decision to type up a response where you “well, actually” a widower, then posted it.
Twice.
I bet he wears a 1776 on July 4 also, completely missing the same symbolism to express tradition and culture.
 

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Cross post. Florsheim 93602.
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Wait...a guy is asking folks to wear pink to raise awareness of a disease that took his wife’s life, and you’re telling him that what he is asking is just “virtue signaling nonsense“?

This is truly one of the most remarkable exchanges I’ve read on here.You could’ve ignored it, but you made the decision to type up a response where you “well, actually” a widower, then posted it.
Twice.
I'm not insulting the man. I am saying that it is more productive to give money than to wave flags.

I fail to see how me wearing a pink tie is going to make a lick of difference in the fight against cancer. Some people disagree. We respectfully disagreed. I meant nothing personally insulting here, and if I did insult the gentleman in question, then I sincerely apologize.

I'm more pragmatically focused in respect to charity and noble causes. I like to see results.
 

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Sooo... Getting back to AE... After spending some time on Google Images looking at AE burgundy shell, I've decided I'm going to go with burgundy Hamiltons. I already ordered a pair of the standard shell Strands and Daltons in Burgundy as well. Looking forward to breaking them in.
 

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Going to repair a leaky toilet for a tenant. It’s only 84 degrees today, so break out the jeans and the greenish/gray Long Branches for dirty work.
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Hope y’all are having a great weekend.

What else you makin’ @smfdoc? I enjoy seeing your leather work.
 

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Sooo... Getting back to AE... After spending some time on Google Images looking at AE burgundy shell, I've decided I'm going to go with burgundy Hamiltons. I already ordered a pair of the standard shell Strands and Daltons in Burgundy as well. Looking forward to breaking them in.
Noooooooooo - If you already have burgundy in other styles, go with chili!!
 

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This is where that device gets tricky. Both feet have a ball length of 9.5. But foot length is 8 and 9. Width at 9.5 is a D on the left but a heavy C on the right. Personally I would not go shorter than a 8.5. I think the right foot would get hammered in a 8. If I was fitting those measurements I would be 9C maybe or 8.5D. I have very similar measurements and wear 9.5B or 9.5C. But I am .5 longer in length and one width smaller at the ball. Can you find a 9C in a 65 last and have him try it on? The vintage Florsheim 93602 fits a little narrower than the 65 last with about the same length. The cone is a little lower also. At the end of the day he has to be comfortable and I have no idea if he is used to a looser or tighter fit. But I would at least start at 8.5 and see how that fits.
Is he flat footed? That would change how we respond to the arch measurement, and could explain why he was swimming in them.
Thank you both for weighing in. This is really helpful.

Yes, he is extremely flat footed. I could take them to the local Allen Edmonds store and have him try on a few different sizes. Which of their last most closely approximates the vintage Florsheim Kenmoor?
 

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Does anyone happen to know where the latest iteration of the Wilbert is made. Website now lists them as "imported." I am personally disappointed to see so many of styles are now being off-shored (not trying to start a debate here--I imagine the increased outsourcing of recraftable gyw styles has been discussed at length already).
 

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Sooo... Getting back to AE... After spending some time on Google Images looking at AE burgundy shell, I've decided I'm going to go with burgundy Hamiltons. I already ordered a pair of the standard shell Strands and Daltons in Burgundy as well. Looking forward to breaking them in.
Noooooooooo - If you already have burgundy in other styles, go with chili!!
Burgundy shell is terrific, but is available year round. Green, navy, bourbon, those are trunk show only offerings. A dark green or navy shell Hamilton would be lights out!

Thank you both for weighing in. This is really helpful.
Yes, he is extremely flat footed. I could take them to the local Allen Edmonds store and have him try on a few different sizes. Which of their last most closely approximates the vintage Florsheim Kenmoor?
Lifetime flat footer here. I don't know the vintage Florsheim you reference. Which AE is your friend looking at? AE's best last for these flat feet, which fit me beautifully in my Brannock size, are the 1943 and the 65. Lots of great shoes made on the 65, fewer on the 1943.
 

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Does anyone happen to know where the latest iteration of the Wilbert is made. Website now lists them as "imported." I am personally disappointed to see so many of styles are now being off-shored (not trying to start a debate here--I imagine the increased outsourcing of recraftable gyw styles has been discussed at length already).
They are being made in the DR. The Wilbert is so popular that it strains the PW plant. It could come back to PW depending on how other styles perform. Then again, I would keep the Wilbert in the DR based on Margins. The AE buyer will pay more for dress shoes and boots. But styles like the Wilbert and hand sewn shoes do not command as high of retail price. At least for AE customers.
 

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Sooo... Getting back to AE... After spending some time on Google Images looking at AE burgundy shell, I've decided I'm going to go with burgundy Hamiltons. I already ordered a pair of the standard shell Strands and Daltons in Burgundy as well. Looking forward to breaking them in.

Noooooooooo - If you already have burgundy in other styles, go with chili!!
First of all, Burgundy is amazing. You can’t really go wrong with it. It’s an amazing color that ages uniquely for each pair. However, if you have just ordered two burgundy shell shoes, id say add chili!
 
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I need help reading the Branick device. I’m getting my brother some vintage Florsheims for his 50th birthday. I asked him to go get measured, and the sales person at Nordstrom told him that he wears a 9D. I don’t think that’s possible. He tried on several pairs of my 9Ds and he’s swimming in them. I think he wears 8E. Thoughts? View attachment 1461812View attachment 1461813
It looks like a 9D on the left and a little longer than an 8D on the right. It seems that the length of his arch is even longer though, so a 9D seems like a reasonable place to start.
 

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They are being made in the DR. The Wilbert is so popular that it strains the PW plant. It could come back to PW depending on how other styles perform. Then again, I would keep the Wilbert in the DR based on Margins. The AE buyer will pay more for dress shoes and boots. But styles like the Wilbert and hand sewn shoes do not command as high of retail price. At least for AE customers.
Thanks for the info. I'm not sure I want to drop $220 on a made in DR shoe. Not a questions of quality per se, I just personally prefer MiUSA.
 

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