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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by watchidiot, Feb 12, 2016.

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  1. MattRiv

    MattRiv Senior member

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    Pardon my ignorance, but what was helped by moving to criss cross lacing? Could you have done the European bar lace with criss cross under?
     
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  2. smfdoc

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    Happy Tuesday forum pals! I received some NOS vintage Hanover longwings yesterday. They are really sweet. Some time with conditioning and I will post pictures of the maiden voyage. Today is some Non-AE shell.


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  3. St Hubbins

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    I believe the bar lacing was creating a pressure point due to a bump on the instep of my mutant right foot. The criss-cross pattern seems to have spread out the pressure more evenly... or at least that is my evaluation so far. Perhaps I'm faking myself out. I'll have to look into other lacing methods. Not 100% I dig being able to see the criss-cross under the bars, but that's purely subjective and of course others will have their own opinions.
     
  4. whodey14

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    Navy Strands with Dainite soles.
     
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  5. middlepP

    middlepP Senior member

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    Saw some shell daltons on the bay from that favorite seller...
     
  6. 007Bond

    007Bond Senior member

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    Brand new to the forum.

    Did a search and could not find an answer to my question.

    First big AE fan. Funny just over 50 years old and just discovered AE about a year ago. Quickly fell in love and replaced all my shoes with AE and then some. My wife thinks there is something wrong with me a man interested in shoes.

    As I said went a little crazy the past year buying shoes I think I am now at the 10 pair mark.

    My question is I do by from the Shoe Bank and I have even visited several shoebanks in my travels including the factory in WI. When I shop the Shoebank I notice that as you would expect shoes can be available at any number of the Shoebanks across the US. However many shoes are listed at the "Consumer Assistance Center" and this is not a Shoebank.

    I have purchased from both the Shoebank in WI and the Consumer Assistance Center also in the same building in WI. But I
    cannot figure out what is the difference more specifically where does the Consumer Assistance Center get its shoes from.

    I do know that when you are at the Shoebank in WI at the same location as the Customer Assistance Center you cannot by the shoes that are listed
    as for sale in the online Shoebank from the store you must purchase them on the phone and have them shipped.

    What I mean is since there is a factory store and Shoebank in WI at 201 East Seven Hills Road and the Customer Assistance Center is also right there at 201 East Seven Hills Road in WI
    why would AE have two outlets in the same building if there were not some difference between the shoes they sell.

    If you ask or look online there is no mention of the 2 different outlets at 201 East Seven Hills Road but yet they both carry
    different shoes and are different phone numbers.

    I theorize that all the actual Shoebanks are selling seconds and that the Customer Assistance Center is actually selling
    first that were returned.

    It more of a curiosity for me to know the difference as i have bought from both with all positive results.

    I do know one difference is for example if you call any of the Shoebanks you can ask them to pull the shoe and look it over
    for you and tell you why they think it is a second if they see any issues
    and if you call the Customer Assistance Center they cannot look a the shoe as it is stored in the warehouse and they have
    no way to get to the shoe.

    So if anyone knows the real difference between the Customer Assistance Center and the Shoebank at the same address
    let me know.

    Thanks
     
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    M2511 Senior member

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    The shoebank located there is a store with inventory. The CAC is where ALL returns go shoebank included if I am not mistaken. It can also be where they go before they are sent out to any shoebank (of this I'm not sure). The inventories are not kept in the same place. If you would like them looked at before sent out, I suggest calling the actual shoebank store you mentioned as ask them to have the shoes pulled from the warehouse for them to inspect the shoes before sending them out. They can do this but it will take a day or two for them to get them. Good luck!
     
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    From my experience, the shoes I've received from the CAC have always been in the worst shape, by far. I doubt they're returned firsts
     
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  9. ace13x

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    The CAC is just the central warehouse. It supplies all the outlets. As the basically only ship product, when you order from them, they will not "pick" you out a nice one. There is no shoe conspiracy.

    If a shoe is at the CAC, you can call an outlet and have them order the shoe from the CAC to their store, and then have them look it over.

    Edit: In more detail, all seconds (weather returns or straight from factory quality control) go to the CAC, the CAC sends seconds to the outlets. You can't physically shop at the CAC because its a warehouse and not set up as a store. Hence they built a ShoeBank store at the location.
     
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    I have so far had good luck with the CAC but maybe you are correct maybe they are returned seconds that were returned due to the imperfections and some may have just not fit. I bought a pair of Sauk Drive boots from the CAC it was just a few months ago. So it did seem odd since this boot was long discontinued and I hadn't seen stock in a long time. Also the only pair on the site in any size luckily the one size they had was mien. It was clear to me that the boots were tried on and worn on carpet or a tile floor for a bit by someone. But they were only $129 so I could not really complain, I replaced the laces with the stock Dalton laces so they look just like Daltons except for the sole and for bad weather the knob rubber is probably better.
     
  11. whodey14

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    Curiousity question, where do I go to edit my signature? I can't seem to find that.
     
  12. St Hubbins

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    It's about half way down your profile page... at least it was for me.
     
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    Ok this is good info I did not know I could have my local Shoebank order the shoes from the CAC for me to try and inspect.

    I hope I did not imply that I thought there was a "shoe conspiracy" that was not what I meant at all.

    What you are saying seems reasonable the CAC is just a stockhouse for the Shoebanks. But I wonder how they decide what they list online as CAC and what goes to Shoebanks that is yet again listed online.
     
  14. middlepP

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    Looks like I will be skipping RDA sale... And hopefully I found my new Dalton size. Or, worse case my new size with a road warriors insert. This slightly makes up for passing on brown shell Dundees last month. I'm not the biggest fan of the contrast welt, but figure these can be darkened down the road, if needed.
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  15. whodey14

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    Those look nice! Where did you snag those from? Cordovan?
     
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    I just received a tracking number today for my new black shell cordovan MacNeils. I ordered them almost 8 weeks ago. I am really looking forward to finally getting them. They should be here Thursday. I'll post some pics after they arrive.
     
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  17. middlepP

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    New, off the 'bay. They better be cordovan.
     
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    They're a Nordstrom exclusive, not NR. The rack might get old stock or returns. I think these are the exclusives, although I'm probably missing some:
    Nordstrom - Bainbridge, Clifton, Leawood, Madison Park, Neumok in Acorn Hillfire
    NR - 6th Ave, Boardwalk, Madison Ave, Riverside

    And some may be cross-branded? Maybe all start at Nordstrom and get shipped to NR?
     
  19. whodey14

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    Very nice, just looked them up. That seller always seems to have some pretty rough examples. This pair doesn't seem too bad however. Maybe I should start looking at their listings a little closer.

    Curious, why did you say "Better be cordovan"? The listing and sole denote that information. I however didn't know, hence why I asked.
     
  20. middlepP

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    I have mixed feelings about NW shoes. I feel the brand new listings might be hiding structural issues and I struggle with hoping on the used (at least by a "stranger") bandwagon. So, I prefer the ones that look like they were extended try-ons.

    "Better be"... cause they are listed/labeled as cordovan. And I paid cordovan prices for them. (Not that I have any reason to believe they aren't. That seller is usually pretty up front about everything. At least anything that is visible.)
     
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