Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

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  1. BespokeBrooklyn

    BespokeBrooklyn Senior member

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    A lot of people believe that black looks better at night than other colors do. I agree with you that, if you are going to wear black shoes with something other than a a city suit or black tie, the make-up of the show should be more casual. I think that pebble grain is a good way to wear black at night without looking overdressed. There's an Allen Edmonds-for-Brooks Brothers pebble grain MacNeil that's for sale for $150 in the tent sale that you may consider; some English brands also make more casual black shoes in country grain with a lot of brogueing.

     


  2. BackInTheJox

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    Good points!

    In the past I've considered the RL Sanderson in black (since I'm a big fan in tan/walnut and can get a good fit with an E width), but it is a bit more sleek and not quite the same level of "dressdownability" as, say, a black grain longwing like you suggest. But, I'm always open to considering and trying new things.
     


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    My advice would be to check eBay for a Florsheim LWB in pebble grain. There are a ton of them on there for a good price. I would have trouble paying full or even a sale price for a black shoe as I wear them maybe 1-2 times / yr. I just picked up a pair of vintage McAllisters (I believe they are 80s) with minimal wear for $35 shipped on the bay. They arrive today.
     


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    You already have two pairs of black shoes. If you want longwings, get them in burgundy (preferably shell cordovan in color #8) as this is the classic longwing gunboat IMO. Second choice would be dark brown. But definitely don't buy another pair of black shoes when you already have 2 and hardly wear them.
     


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    Appreciate the helpful insight! I would agree, this is something I probably just needed to be talked down from.
     


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    Sure, but if he thinks he would wear a casual black shoe more often than a dressy black shoe, it may be worth the investment.

    Another option is a black tassel loafer. Some well-dressed men adhere to a rule that, if you wear black neckwear, you should wear black shoes. If you wear, say, a black grenadine or knot silk tie with navy suits or a blazer and slacks (to a dressy restaurant, country club; or fancy hotel, perhaps?), a black tassel loafer would go well.

     


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    I suspect that yes, I would wear a casual black shoe more often than a dressy black shoe.

    However, I suppose I probably should hold off on any black wingtip blucher for the moment. If I get to the point where I think "well, I have all the shoes I need for my collection/uses", then perhaps I will settle on adding a black longwing blucher.

    Of course, do any of us ever reach that point?
     


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    Chili Bryons for Wednesday. This old balmoral style on the 4 last, works very well with a high instep. One of the few balmorals that do. The Fifth Ave., the replacement for the Byron, was moved to the 5 last which does not work nearly as well.

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    @BackInTheJox I have a lot of trouble in this area so wanted to weigh in. I believe I own 15 pairs in black, maybe more. Apart from summer, I'm usually dressed pretty formally. I wear a lot of black (neo, duh!), so plain toe black styles get a lot of use - its actually the ornate stuff that don't. I literally went through that same thought process as bespoke suggested when I got the MacNeil in black and I rarely wear them. So id agree it depends on whether they will get used. I passed on the Kenilworth on multiple occasions in black - I probably would have worn it weekly at a minimum. I passed on a black Franciscan too - no regrets.
     


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    I was thinking about that about a month ago. I came up with a list of shoes that could complete my collection, but even that was open-ended. Plain black cap-toes, pebble grain chukkas, a burgundy tassel loafer, a shell longwing blucher, a tan pair to wear to summer weddings and other occasions when I wear light colors . . . the list goes on. I work in a business formal office, so I have more use for black shoes and balmorals than many people do, but how often would I really wear tan dress shoes? Or a tassel loafer? Yet I feel somewhat of a need to have a fully rounded-out collection, just in case.

    I just snagged a pair of pebble grain Leeds 2.0s for $60 off of eBay. I just got rid of an old pebble grain cemented/rubber soles pair, so this is an upgrade. You know, for when I travel, or for days when the weather is too lousy for my dressier oxfords but not so bad as to require boots. But those are the same circumstances in which I foresaw wearing my dundees when I ordered them a month or so ago. It continues.

     


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    It continues indeed.

    I'm actually considering trying to see if I can fit into a D width Ralph Lauren Shanley (their new made by AE tassel loafer, essentially the Acheson I think) in dark brown, as they're $129 right now.

    I work as a physician in an outpatient setting where chinos/button down with white coat is de rigueur. No tie.
     


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    All good points. I think right now I probably don't have a big enough "niche" carved out for black casual shoes.
     


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    I think the black color is an indication of formality, but the design of the shoe outweighs it. (Perhaps this is why my wife objects to black flip flops at a wedding.) I personally wear black longwing bluchers one a week and consider it an office appropriate shoe. The blucher, pebble and brogue moves it away from the use only in the "most formal" of occasions. They certainly work in a clinical setting, as can be seen from the doctor's stool in the background. I would certainly wear them with a suit in the absence of a more appropriate style. Although these are pebbled calf, I am currently looking for the same in cordovan and I look forward to owning both.

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