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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by watchidiot, Feb 12, 2016.

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  1. MattRiv

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    See my post above, but my answer is yes. If I were to guess you are either a true 7E or D based on the feedback that a EEE feels a half size bigger. For me a half size in length or worth in any direction could be make for a similar fit. So 11D or 11.5C has a similar fit, if that makes sense.

    Post a pic of your foot in those strands and let us know where he pressure is. Also would help see how they break on your foot.
     


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    SEA ISLAND SUEDE LOAFER in acorn suede... hmmmmmm

    these look damn good

    where's the matching belt???
     


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    hey Matt, I'm also having a shoe fit dilemma too. Based on your experience I am inclined to try 12B. Here is a picture of my 11Ds (finger pointing to pressure point): http://cdn.styleforum.net/1/11/500x1000px-LL-11603a76_sNZtVEP.jpeg. My feet can't breathe throughout the day.

    I tried 11E at the store - video here: . Much more comfortable in toe box but there is a tiny bit of bowing on this one. What sizes would you suggest I try?
     


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    Thanks so much for the kind advice man.
    Will definitely look to get my foot measured with a Brannock.

    In the meantime here's a pic of my feet in the 6.5D Fifth Avenues:
    [​IMG]

    My left foot is slightly narrower than my right, so there is less pressure on that foot compared to the right.
     


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    I'm far from an expert, but I think you could be having the same issue that I did. That 11D looks very similar to how mine looked, but your v gap is a lot wider than mine. I don't know what your instep is like, but a byproduct of my shoe sizing journey today, I learned that I have a collapsed arch (likely due to wearing shoes too wide for me and the arch support being in an area of the shoe that I wasn't filling out). Anyway the point is if you have a higher instep or more pronounced arch, the v gap is going to be wider regardless of your foot width so that really isn't a "make or break". What is very similar is where my toes were being overly compressed and likely the reason why.

    Based on your gap, I assume you either have a higher instep or a wider foot than I do, but regardless of that those shoes look too short. The way it was explained to me is that your foot should fit into the "pocket" and not be too far (or not far enough) into the toe box like you (and I) are in an 11D. If you are too far forward your toes will ram into the taper of the shoe as it approaches the toe box, but if you aren't far enough the toe box will feel flimsily and "disconnected" from your foot if that makes sense. The 11E is making the width more tolerable, but it's making the shoe too wide overall causing the bowing.

    I think a 12B is going to be too narrow on the 5 last and that you might be more like an 11.5D, 11.5C or a 12C. My bet is on the brannock you are a 12C and that is your optimal size. Hope this helps.
     


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    Do you toes feel cramped together? If yes, then go for 7D. If the toes don't feel cramped, but the ball of your feet feel tight, then either to up to 6.5EE or 6.5EEE.
     


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    Great job on the illustration work. The shoes are going to release some pressure as they break in, but it's possible that the 6.5 D is too short for you. I would try a 7D or 7C based on where that shoe is breaking and where your toes are being compressed as it seems you are too far into the toe box. You want the ball (base knuckle) of your big toe and the base of your pinky toe to hit the green areas on this pic. [​IMG]
     


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    This is basically what I wanted to articulate.
     


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    The online sizing indicator is imperfect, at best. So much depends on how the printer is calibrated, assuming it's used perfectly . . . the online indicator has me as a 12E, but I'm actually an 11D.

    Based on the picture and your explanation, my best guess is that you are a 6.5E or 6.5EE. You don't have a ton of extra volume in the 6.5D, but it does not look too long, so I suspect you are not a 7. The pressure indicated in the photo is where I have an issue with the 65 last (5th Ave, Strand, etc.) as well; I'm an 11D in most AE shoes, but 11E in Strands (11.5D in a casual shoe, which has more padding, also works for me. Is the pressure from the side or front of your toe, or both? Does it feel uncomfortably tight, or more like your foot is being strangled? If it feels a bit too tight, 6.5E might be about right.

    This is an imperfect rule of thumb, but for width my experience is that going up a half size does about the same as going up a width. In other words, your 6.5D shoes will be narrower than 7D, but 6.5E would be about the same width as 7D. There is a huge difference between that and 7EEE, mainly in the overall volume of the shoe, but the 7EEE would be something like 9/16" (~1.4cm) wider than the 7D (which would be similar to 6.5E). How thick an insole did you put in the 7EEE? If more than a very thin strip of leather with minimal padding, that is not the correct width for you.

    Bottom line: my best guess, which is probably wrong, is that you are a 6.5E. Because the 65 last is a bit difficult to fit, it's possible you are a 6.5EE in that particular last.

    Best of luck!
     


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    Don't underestimate the value of a nice patina, especially on a lighter colored shoe. I don't blame Dd1101, if he opts to wear the more expensive Independence shoes, if thats the case. Enjoy the hell out of them. Besides, he said he's interested in a different sole, so there is that. Personally, I would go for the JR when the time comes, but they're his shoes.
     


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    AE has a few international locations. Use their store locator, there may be one where returning is not so bad of an options.

    A 7EEE should be much wider than a 7D, according to the brannock scale the EEE should be 9/16" wider (~1.43cm). But not all shoe manufacturers strictly adhere to that standard.
     


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    Any info on when the next seconds sale will be? Or any particular outlets with upcoming sales? It's been about two years since I've shopped for AE seconds, and I'm surprised to see Park Avenues listed at $299 on the Shoe Bank website. Yikes. That is substantially higher than I recall. Heck, that's barely any cheaper than firsts were just a few years ago.
     


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    First, I would not concern myself too much with your left foot, Size to fit on your right, since its the bigger foot (it doesn't appear that the difference is so great that you need separate sizes for each). I would try (in this order) 6.5E, 6.5EE (not easy to find), 7E. I don't think you have to go to EEE. The 6.5E should alleviate the pressure as will the 7E, but the 7E will do more to close the V-gap. Your length seems good, but don't worry too much about the extra length on a 7, its only 1/6" longer (0.423cm).
     
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    Just missed a big seconds sale. Likely, will have to wait until the fall.
     


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