@cc808314Fantastic post! Was going to ask one thing - I'm hearing about issues with the sea island length more and more now on this board. Length is always a concern for me on these loafers - I usually wear them with not too much room up front in the toe. With the Kirkwood I actually find the length just right. I know how you have issues with length vs width tradeoff - how would you compare the sea island to the Kirkwood - much smaller?