@Neo1 I didn't try a suede version of the Cavanaugh but that's a really good idea. I think the 8.5 in suede might be the one. @BackInTheJox would love to see a picture of the Oak loafers. (I own zero loafers, yet, handful of boat shoes but I think I'm about to make the plunge into the exact same scenario you're in, going from no loafers to, "I might need another closet to store these loafers.) Am I the only one in the forum that doesn't own a walnut shade yet? I think it's a great color, but I might need to join or start the Oxblood Anonymous group. The dark chili doesn't quite do it for me (beautiful shade, just like the walnut) but something about oxblood just draws me to it.