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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by watchidiot, Feb 12, 2016.

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  1. MattRiv

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    Midnight Monday, yo.
     


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    I rarely post questions to the group, but looking for some opinions on this. I consider myself extremely tolerant when it comes to breaking stuff in. In fact, some people like @moose22 would probably call me a masochist. Occasionally something is good to go out of the box, but usually this is not the case.

    Off the top of my head, the original park ave destroyed my insteps wear after wear until finally breaking in - were talking like 40 plus wears, full day. They now feel like slippers. The Jermyn destroyed my right big toe for roughly a year (its good now). MacNeil? First wear took the skin off both my heels so bad I needed masking tape for a month - now I wear them at least once a week.

    I could go on in case this amuses people. I recently picked up a sojourner. Initial reaction was that they felt uber large up front but do able, since the heel was so reinforced and locked you in. I was honestly expecting total garbage and was pleasantly surprised. With extended wear, I started feeling this weird pressure on my ankles, to the point where it was excruciating. Finally took the skin off my left ankle completely. That was wear #1. Wear #2 (wasn't giving up that easily) was worse - the left shoe is sort of flexing to the point where I feel like I could sprain my ankle. I mentioned this to a store manager who said I could try using a tongue pad under the road warrior insert to see if that helped, but I'm honestly hesitant to even put these on again. I feel like these should be pulled off the market and destroyed.

    So what do you guys think - man up, I've dealt with worse, or admit defeat?
     


  3. MattRiv

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    I've never had any correct fitting AE shoe tear me up at all. How do shoes tear up your heel if you have socks on?
     


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    @SLCRich After my experience with the Jermyn, I must have been delirious to even consider the Grayson but glad I did. Picked up a pair in merlot. Was my favorite loafer too....until I happened upon my burgundy shell Adams [​IMG].
     


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    I have not had any shoe aside from my Kenwoods feel great all day in the first few wears from AE, usually takes 10 wears or so (for me at least) and I have not experienced any skin coming off. Occasionally my insteps will be sore with extended wear (10+ hours) but never anywhere near what you are describing. I don't think it is admitting defeat I think its saving yourself from what sounds like actual torture.
     


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    They came today. You were right, much nicer in person and no lime green laces. Sadly, no shoe bags, but that's ok.

    Wearing them tonight to dinner with the wife for our anniversary. Quick test fitting:

    [​IMG]
     


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    Are those the Cooke Bit Choc Suede/Dainite on shoebank?
     


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    I had boots years ago with the plastic reinforced heel (steel toe for work) and the heel reinforcement hit me under the ankle bone. It NEVER got better. Rubbed me absolutely raw, and a bandage over the area wouldn't fix the problem as it was just a bad fit for my ankle. I gave them to goodwill.

    I don't understand a tongue pad under the insert. That sounds nuts to me, but I might be picturing it wrong. Only place I'd heard of to put a tongue pad is on the tongue to push you back toward the heel. That's how I fit a 5 last - -go one wider and use a pad to keep me from swimming around in the heel area. A bad solution compared to just buying a better last for me,but it really worked on the PAs in the store. If the problem really is that you're swimming in the heel part of the shoes you have, it might be the thing to hold you in place, and if the raw ankle is from rubbing, not from the reinforcement jamming into you, it could stop that.
     


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    @Neo1

    That's one reason I've avoided buying any of the road warriors. I've read a lot of problems with foot pain and fit. If it's causing you extreme pain every time you wear it and it does not improve, what other choice do you have? I'd argue for giving it 10 wears at least and see if it improves.

    I've only had two real challenges with break in. My Ashton caused me toe pinching for several weeks, but that went away. My Leeds took 25 wears for it to finally be comfortable, and even so, my Carlyle is more comfortable than the Leeds. Not counting the Wilbert which was mis-sized or defective forcing me to go up 1/2 size. AE's casual shoes have been mis-sized in my experience (except for the Malone).
     


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    @MattRiv I find a lot of heels overly large. They destroy me until broken in. The MacNeil heel is huge, as was the freiburg. I consider the patriot a godsend in this department.
     


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    I agree. I almost pulled the trigger on a great deal on a pair of Oak Street Bootmakers beefroll penny loafers in black leather, but then thought twice about it and the combo of black + natural welt. Don't get me wrong, I love natural welts too, but I don't really think I have any use for a black loafer (I'm not sure anyone truly does), and I buy OSB for casual loafers - so natural/brown work much better.

    A great deal on something you won't wear is a bad deal.
     


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    @Moose22 Yes! That ankle pain is exactly like work boot pain, like with red wings. It isn't wide at all the material is just so stiff.
     


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    [​IMG]

    Wingtip Wednesday? McTavish in Cognac
     


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    Ugh, I don't know what to tell you, then, @Neo1 . That friggen' work boot was the one thing to break me. My hikers at the time were similar, but not steel toe and the leather stiffener, and I wore those through 6 years and a resole.

    I don't suppose you're willing to spend an afternoon hiking up to you knees in a creek. That's how we used to break in leather hiking boots, back in the days before everyone went to the lightweight hiking shoes everyone uses now.

    Seriously, I have good advice. Those sound way too hard to break in for my standards.
     


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    Personally, I prefer a chili welt to a natural welt with the navy cordovan. I think those colors work especially beautifully with the navy shell because the shell will lighten over time. Both chili and natural, to me, would be preferable to a black welt with navy shell.

    I'm not such a fan of a natural or chili welt with black calf. I'm just not sure what kind of outfit I'd wear them with that I'd prefer a black shoe over a shoe of another color.
     


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