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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by watchidiot, Feb 12, 2016.

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  1. gm928

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    Brandy Drydens.

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    Bwahahahaha!
     


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    I dont have a pic but tried some on last year at an outlet. The web pics are actually pretty true to the color. I could only really see them as a dark denim/ navy pant shoe so I passed at what they were then which was about $269 for seconds. $225 for firsts might be worth another look.
     


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    Those are nice. How old is that model?
     


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    Thanks. I bought this pair about 8 years ago, and I think they were discontinued around 2010 or 2011.
     


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    Thanks for that. Dark denim would be the primary spot for me.

    In other news, the golden brown Humboldt belt I ordered came today. It's going to be a great match for my Rush Streets, but surprisingly, it looks like it's also a better match to my Bourbon than a Bourborn Dearborn.
     


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    I wonder why they are $40 more on the shoebank. Seems goofy. Now if seconds were like $175 I would totally get some.
     


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    I don't want to get banned from the group, but I'm going to ask a question. I don't want to offend anyone, but I'm wondering if anyone else thinks like I do:

    Would you prefer seconds from the Bank, or firsts on sale or clearance?

    Personally, I would rather have firsts on clearance or sale. I just ordered my 12th pair, and only two were stamped on the bottom; my second pair (Bourbon Strands,) and my recent Ebay purchase (Oxblood Daltons.) All the rest are firsts. I don't know why, because I sure can't find the fault in either pair. Maybe I'm just weird, or maybe if I had a Bank closer, where I could hand-pick everything, I would feel differently.

    What is your take?
     


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    First on sale/clearance....anyday
     


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    First on sale/clearance.
     


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    Firsts.
    There is always a reason why a shoe at the Shoebank is a "second". Sometimes I can Iive with that. And sometimes I cannot.
    I just returned a pair last week that I couldn't accept. It was a model that was on clearance. I ordered that pair after first checking to see if their were any first-quality shoes available. (There were not).
     


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    Id prefer firsts but my wallet likes seconds. I'm not overly picky with shoes so seconds are fine.
     


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    There's a bit more to this discussion of "sale firsts" vs. seconds than meets the eye. Firstly, consider that what constitutes a "second" is subjective. Sure, there are quality control standards which dictate when a shoe should be considered second quality. But it's a human being making the distinction, after all, and AE isn't exactly known for perfect quality; I've read many accounts of supposed "firsts" with flaws that wouldn't even be acceptable on a "second." And on the other hand, accounts from resident shoe experts who purchase a pair of seconds and swear there is no flaw.

    You also must take into account the simple fact that "staple" shoes such as Park Avenues hardly ever go on clearance. A sale, perhaps, but not clearance. So it might not always be practical to buy a pair of firsts at a deep sale price in lieu of a pair of seconds.

    So in my opinion, this is kind of an apples vs. oranges comparison and a needless thought exercise. Too many variables exist and no two pairs of seconds are alike. It's easy to say that in general and in theory, a first quality shoe on sale is preferable to a full priced factory second. But really, what good is it to even ponder this question? Buy according to your needs, your budget, and what's available at the time. If you happen to score a great deal on a pair of firsts, great. If you pay even less for seconds that for the life of you might as well be firsts, even better. Who cares if there's a stamp on the sole? Worst case scenario, you're sent a pair of seconds with a truly nasty flaw, and you simply return them and try again.

    Basically, the question as posed is a false dichotomy. It needn't be such a black or white issue.
     
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    The real question is would you rather have firsts on sale, seconds from the bank or nearly brand new firsts on eBay for 1/3 of retail.

    Long live the bay.
     


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    Each option has its use. Ebay is particularly good for finding discontinued shoes. For example, I have a nice pair of Bryons, that are the same as a Fifth Ave., but on a different last. I purchased them on Ebay, but their soles had a moderate amount of wear and would need recrafting some day. Then I found the exact same shoe in nearly new condition a few days ago for far less than $100. It looks like they have been worn 1-3 times at most. Easy choice for me. Sell the old ones and use the funds to buy the newer version for the same price. I would add that I am VERY diligent in checking for shoes every day as one must be quick when the opportunity does eventually present itself. Long live the Bay indeed. If the shoes is on the shoe back it is easier for me to justify waitning for the sale or picking them up while they are still around.

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