@danwatts2005 I find that really unfortunate - a result of AEs super limited inventory and the back and forth shipping preventing you from finding a good fit. The stores are geared towards getting everyone into the 65, which will likely "fit" everyone to some degree. I would have agreed with you when I first got my PAs, but as an example, last Fall one day I had my Aberdeens on by 7AM, did a couple hours of errands, considerable walking, made a 2.5 hr drive, did a LOT more walking, drove home (another 2.5 hours), and still had the shoes on at 2AM, and could have kept going. Keep trying everything you can get your hands on. I absolutely can never get athletic shoes to work - I measure at a 7.5 narrow. With all the cushion I need the length of the 7.5 (with AE I go down to 7). But with the D width of the sneakers, it's always way too much volume, like I'm sloshing around, and I get leg muscle fatigue pretty quickly.