Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by watchidiot, Feb 12, 2016.
What's the color on that? How's the fit compared to the 65 last?
I have not worn the Promontory Point boots all that much, but when I do, they get abused. They have a Dainite sole on them stock, which I like just fine - just not the greatest traction in snow and ice.
Chili Bleeckers today.
I was wondering if these creases and wrinkles are normal/accepted for the inside quarter of my bleeckers:
Hi all, I posted this in the main forum but figured this might be a better place. If there is another place where it should go let me know, any advice would be appreciated:
I am going to be adding some AE to my rotation and wanted to know what you guys think would be the best options. At my job I always wear suits, so that's what whatever I get will primarily be worn for. Right now I have Park Avenues in Black and Bourbon and Bellevue Chukkas (for casual). I was thinking about maybe going with the strand and/or Mcallister or university wingtips, any advice on which colors I should add and in which styles? For colors, I was thinking of a walnut and a burgundy option, but it doesn't appear that burgundy is available for most styles anymore. Also, I was looking into the dress boots, like the first avenue and dalton. Can these be pulled off with a suit? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Took my friend (aka my kid brother) to the outlet for a long visit. Pretty disastrous - I gave him credit for trying on so much and I couldn't disagree with many of his comments, but my conclusion was what I already knew - the 65 is crap. I was convinced he needed wide width and the roominess of the 201 - wildly wrong. He tried on many sizes in the 65 and settled in 8D, but is planning to return what he got (McAllister). Shows me too well - don't assume anything. When he said the Clifton in an 8D was the best he tried, I put 2 and 2 together and even though I never would have recommended it, I had him try an 8.5E san Marco and it fit really well. So on the one hand, I'm out the restocking fee but at least I know the approximate size now. I found one of those chestnut 6th aves over the weekend which he said was also better. AE is doing this thing where they are cutting back on inventory and refusing to carry a lot of non-standard stuff to avoid so much back and forth shipping costs. That's all fine, but loading up on 65 stuff isn't the best strategy. They had nothing on the 511 which I think is the most standard last. Oh well - I think they lost a potentially good customer.
Gave me an excuse to break out my brown crackle mctavish to match my mood.
Yes, all of those things! But.... I do still love my AEs...
My SA told me it was a flaw in the design and very common for anyone that doesn't completely fill up the vamp. Mine were very light until I got caught in a major rain storm. They've never quite been the same since - though someone mistook them (in person) for shell once and complemented me on the rolls.
Edit: Sorry, @vmss . I misread your post (re: inside quarters). That is some pretty heavy wrinkling, though it likely wouldn't bother me, as most would not ever see it. Are these 2nds? New? New to you?
They look more than normal, though I wouldn't worry much as that part is mostly hidden under trousers. Moreover, these creases shouldn't be as visible once your foot is in the shoe...or so I think
I agree, it does not look like you are filling up the vamp. I have some similar vamp creasing on my Gobis as they are a little too big for my feet. It's much more prominent on my left foot, which is about a 1/4 size smaller than my right.
65 Last make you work a bit.
I'm great with a 11.5D in a 65-last blucher, and my McT's are fine as bals, but I'm definitely a 11.5E in the cap-toe bals (Rush St., Strand).
Get the Merlot McAllister asap, maybe with the v-tread option. I also think the brown fifth street would be the best second choice. Then perhaps consider a walnut strand or FA or University to wear with lighter summer suits and to have something in between your suit shoes and the chukkas in formality.
My extremely optional Reasoning:
Seeing as you wear suits daily, I would recommend the safety of darker colors and possibly an less brogued shoe in walnut if you are set on wearing walnut with navy (your bourbon PA's are a better choice IMO). Walnut with a dark suit in any style is going to be a little forward.
If you want to wear a boot with traditional darker suits, I would recommend staying away from a full brogue in a dress boot, and a blucher in anything but black is going to look fairly casual.
I absolutely love the chili color, but rarely ever wear it with a suit. I occasionally wear my chili PA's with a navy suit, but more often with charcoal trousers and blazer. Chili goes with most trouser colors imo, but since most models have chili edging, they lack the formality I prefer for suit shoes. Most oxblood models have black edging.
I love the University, but I simply wouldn't recommend it in black (Mcallister looks better in black) or to be worn with a suit in chili or walnut (unless you are pairing them with a casual linen suit).
These were new, but I don't really care as they are inside quarters. I was just wondering if this is a normal trend of AE as I am planning to purchase AE pair soon.
I swear I've seen this model shoe posted before by someone who was glad they found it on ebay, but I cant find the post. I thought it was fairly recently as well (like since October or so)
Thanks, this was very helpful. So in order, would these seem to be good options?
(1) Merlot McAllister
(2) Brown Fifth Street Boots
(3) Walnut Strand
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