Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

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  1. cc808314

    cc808314 Senior member

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    Gentlemen, I need your help with unlined suede shoes, as I have 0 experience when it comes to suede. I picked up suede AE for BB wingtip bals with reverse welt from BB in 7.5D and 8D. How much stretching should I expect with an unlined pair? They both feel fine, but with 8D I have more room lengthwise, while with 7.5D my toes are pretty much touching the front and feel a little cramped when I flex my feet. Also, 7.5D maybe feel just a little bit snugger, but not uncomfortable. I am hesitant to go with the 8D, as I am afraid this thing might stretch too much. Also, I plan to go sockless and/or no show.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
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    Thanks! I thought that since another store had shipped them to me, I would need to pay the restocking fee, but it's good to know that that's not the case.
     
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    coolarrow Senior member

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    You will get some stretching with unlined suede. This has been my experience so far:
    very little stretching: shell cordovan
    medium stretching: suede
    a lot of stretching: calf and CXL
     
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    What do you brannock and are you getting a proper V-gap with the 7.5D? From what your describing they sound a little small, but I suppose if you can live with the length, then thats up to you. I wouldn't be OVERLY worried about the stretch for two reasons. One, you can lace tighter (this partly why I asked about the V-gap). Two, by most accounts some/all stretch will subside by the use of cedar shoe trees in between wearings.

    Have you tried the same shoe NOT from BB? The poron insoles in the BB models tend to make them fit a bit more snug according to what I've read. I personally don't own any BB models.
     
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    @cc808314 Like others have said, there are varying degrees of stretch. But - I find that stretch affects the fit in width and arch, not length. If just wearing them around the house you're touching the front, id be really hesitant. You have no idea after a couple hours of walking how bad that could get. A long time ago I was sized wrong and ended up with a pair of nashuas that was too short. Felt ok at home, but after a few hours I couldn't wait to get them off. Went up a half size and liked them so much I actually now have two pairs.
     
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    Was a chilly, damp-ish day yesterday, so I broke out the Black Cascades for their maiden voyage. LOVE these boots! The texture/feel of the calf on this shoe is something special. There's a richness to it. Almost CXL-ish. A longtime poster here noted something about his Cascades—that they seem to garner attention from passers-by. I can vouch for this. I got three comments on these in three different locations—one on the subway, one at a local Duane Reade (a Walgreens[​IMG]-owned drug store chain here in NYC) and the other in an elevator.

    They're excellent “clomp-around” boots, but they somehow have a dressiness about them. AE marketed them (they've since been discontinued) as a foul-weather boot for the rain and such. The waxiness of the leather MAY make it okay for that in a light to medium downpour, but...I think they look great on a gray day without a lot of precip, too.

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    I love my black Jeffersons for a little bit of flair when wearing my three-piece charcoal suit, but generally otherwise agree. Hell, my black captoe is J&M Melton (Goodyear welted in India); they're $175 and last quite a few years with the amount of wear they get. I can get them recrafted by a local cobbler for $80 and get another full wear out of them. Now, they are corrected grain, but since I usually want a high shine on black captoes that isn't much of a problem.

    Of the ~15 pair I've bought in the last 2+ years (filthy, filthy barnweasels), there have been one shell (soon, my preciouses, soon), one chromexcel, two suede, and the rest calf. The calf breaks down to approximately 30% brown, 30% chili, 20% merlot/oxblood, and 20% walnut. I did buy one black shoe, the Verona, simply because I thought I needed a black loafer for some reason. It rarely gets worn, but I'm still somewhat partial to it.
     
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    Verona is from the Italian line, right? There's something idiomatically correct about a black bit loafer. Wear it in good health!
     
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    Does anyone know what last the Madison Park is on? Thanks
     
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    i belive the 222 or 221 ill hafta look back...i just got a pair. great shoe!!
     
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    I just noticed that the 809 last has disappeared from the All About Lasts page, which saddens me. I was hoping for Gobi 2.0.

    I've stumbled across the Allen Edmonds Chinese website a few times and it's weird. It still says [​IMG]2012 at the bottom and has lots of interesting discontinued models, but also has the Normandy up which is a relatively recent release. AE's not still selling making all those old models and selling them in China, are they?
     
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    Those shoes are superb. I must own a shell Strand at some point. I am jealous beyond words.
     
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    @robster35 My favorite AE of all time, the original player, was on the 222. I guess its possible the Madison & player 2 are in the 222 but I thought they discontinued the last since everyone but me hated it. So my guess would be 108. Its one or the other.
     
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    @Scarlet I noticed that site months ago and was actually wondering the same thing - think they still listed Ridgeway and banchory.
     
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    hey no i actually called AE she said it was made on the 222 last. great last. im ok with the 65 in most cases sometimes my pinky toe will get a little pinched. but the 222 is perfect
     
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