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ALFRED SARGENT Appreciation: Handgrade, Exclusive, etc.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SuitedDx, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. Gianni Cerutti

    Gianni Cerutti Senior member

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    Great model and colors.
     
  2. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    Yep, mine are arriving today!
     
  3. Sartorial Scum

    Sartorial Scum Senior member

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    Can anyone advice as to what size would be best in the AS 109?

    I wear :

    Carmina Forest : UK 8 - Have a bit of space, not a super snug fit

    Vass F-Last : 41.5 EU - Fits pretty well, less space than the carmina forest last

    C&J 348 Last - UK 8 - Similar fitting to the Vass

    I am thinking of UK 7.5 in the AS109 which might need a bit more breaking in but will mould to my feet after a break in.

    Thanks
     
  4. wurger

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    Well, for an unknown last, I would go for the UK 8, it's much easier to deal with a bit of room than no room.
     
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  5. Sartorial Scum

    Sartorial Scum Senior member

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    Yeah those were my initial thoughts. I'll go with that, thanks wurger
     
  6. Mifune

    Mifune Well-Known Member

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    Just to give you a bit more data:
    - C&J 348: UK 8F (Oxford)
    - C&J 358: UK 8E (Oxford)
    - C&J 337: UK 8E (Oxford)
    - C&J 325: UK 7.5E (Boot)
    - EG 888: UK 8.5E (Oxford)
    - EG 82: UK 8.5E (Oxford)
    - JL 7000: UK 8E (Oxford)
    - AS 87: UK 8.5F (Chelsea boot)

    (I wear thin wool Pantherella socks when trying on shoes)
     
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  7. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    strange, AS 87 is a generous last, shouldn't go half a size up.
     
  8. laufer

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    Strange indeed, I just received boots in 87 last and it is a generous last.
     
  9. Mifune

    Mifune Well-Known Member

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    I know. I am very particular re. heel slippage and cramped toes, however these AS 87 in Chelsea boots fit very nicely for me. I didn't try the AS 87 in UK 8 so perhaps the fit could be even better...the 8.5 is not as snug as all the other lasts I mentioned, however it is 100% comfortable - no need for different socks, heel pads or anything. On the other hand, I hated all the other lasts when they were half a size larger than what I stated in the previous post, due to heel slippage (or the enormous toe box with the C&J 325).

    @Sartorial Scum - maybe better you follow the advice of wurger and laufer, they're likely to have a lot more experience with AS than me.
     
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  10. dlind

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    Need some size advise, if I take 42 (8UK) in Vass U-last would I be ok with an 8 in the AS 109 and 724 last?
     
  11. Chanklebury

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  12. NORE

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    I'm digging the shoe pictured here :slayer:
     
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  13. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    @NORE, you going to buy a pair?
     
  14. agedashidofu

    agedashidofu Senior member

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    Thanks for sharing this. I've been eyeing the AS Moore in pinner suede for like the longest time and now I finally got it!!!
     
  15. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    Alfred Sargent Cooper from AFPOS

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  16. Roger la Rock

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  17. Chanklebury

    Chanklebury Senior member

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    Hey there Roger, kind of you to reply. Thanks for the post.

    While I admire your Russells, I suspect then that the 3050 last won't work for me; as it is I find the 7WK last to be an incredibly poor fit - I followed the general recommendation to size down, in my case going a ½ size down from 'standard' - and it is loose in the heel yet far too tight in the toe box. I have lamented elsewhere about my foot shape so I won't repeat, but 'less toe room' gives me the fear.
     
  18. All Tatters

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    It seems to me that AS is not the best choice if you need a relatively wide toe box. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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  19. Chanklebury

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    The 77 of the Dumfries and Appleby is wider than average; not sure if they class it class FX but the deeper toe box height and vamp with less outflare than the more tapered lasts gives it considerable volume. Still, they are country boots/shoes. I found the 89, of the Culford for instance, was reasonably roomy too although still not a wide fit.

    To be honest, although us Brits typically I would say have a wider foot than Americans, I don't really find that many English shoes offer that roomy a toe box fit - wider widths just seem to offer greater width at the ball yet still taper in to the tip or nose of the last. The Sanders 4831 is maybe an exception, that is pretty comfortable to be fair.

    I've given up on English RTW shoes. Besides, my personal feeling is that the price is heading too far north for something essentially factory made with a goodyear welt.
     
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  20. agedashidofu

    agedashidofu Senior member

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    S Moore cheery & pinner suede from AFPOS and Herring Shackletons (by AS) from Herring shoes!

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