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ALFRED SARGENT Appreciation: Handgrade, Exclusive, etc.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SuitedDx, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    How were duties, or was there non?
     


  2. dddrees

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    I didn't get hit with any.
     


  3. Northampton21

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    Hi, where's the best place to by AS shoes? I know a fine pair of shoes stock them but any others to recommend within UK?

    As below. ...
    I've bought from Shoe Healer and AFPOS. Richard and Michelle from Shoe healer are absolutely brilliant... very knowledgeable and always willing to do their very best. The Shoe healer also specialises in shoe repairs and unique modifications. Awesome service from AFPOS from Sarah and Julian. Service that makes a difference makes all the difference! :)
    Good luck!
     
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  4. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    I've (like everybody else it seems..) ordered a pair of AS Moore Cherry from the AFPOS sale, which I received yesterday. Lovely shoes, though I'm a bit concerned with some small cracks on the right toe cap, as well as on some minor ones on the left. See pictures:

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    I asked AFPOS about it and Sarah replied that I shouldn't worry, the leather is just dry and with some renovateur and some cream the leather will heal and it won't show or get worse. As much as I want to trust AFPOS, since they are always offering great service, I have to say that my experience of similar cracks on shoes before isn't the same. I've tried to get rid of similar cracks with both dubbin graisse, renovateur and cream, and sure you can cover them up, but for me they have always returned almost immediately and I have had the experience that the cracks have been permanent. So to me it is a bit worrying that there are these cracks on a brand new pair of shoes.

    What's Styleforums take on this? Is it just normal, or should I be concerned?
     
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  5. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    Moore Black in action, so many cherries, time for a change here :satisfied:

    anyone else find the vamp area of the shoe creases more than their other Alfred Sargents? The part just above the waist of the shoe.

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  6. Northampton21

    Northampton21 Senior member

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    I had more severe markings or superficial cracks on the surface of the tongue of my marron lombard AS boots on both left and right. A single application on renovateur made these disappear. It's been several months since I applied saphir renovateur on the tongues and those makings have not come back.

    I would definitely apply renovateur and see what the outcome is. I would not recommend dubbin graise on calf leather such as ours. Hope this helps. :)
     


  7. wurger

    wurger Senior member

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    To answer your questions, this is not normal for the price you pay, especially in the toe cap of a pair of Alfred Sargents. The toe cap is the most important visual part on a pair of shoes, thus the leather used there is usually the best.

    As expected, The Shoe Snob did an excellent article on the how quality of leather differs in different brands, and even in different parts of the shoe. http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/2013/06/leather-quality-how-it-varies.html

    Should you be concerned as in the quality and build of the shoe, then no, it's at the toe of the shoe, so cracking shouldn't increase, and with a few layers of polish, I am pretty sure the cracks won't be noticeable.

    Should you be concerned as in you expected a pair of top notch finished shoe, well, yes.

    I recently wasn't too pleased about the finishing on 2 pairs of Tricker's dress shoes, which I posted on the Trickers thread. I kept the shoes in the end, as I touched them up myself with polish, and once on one's feet, no one will know except yourself... can you live with that? haha.

    I did and got used to it because shoes will eventually be scuffed after wear :cheers:
     
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  8. clee1982

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    Great article from shoesnob by the way. I will put some reno on it and see how it works out, in the end if you were outside EU, then you paid 250GBP, great price for AS Exclusive if you ask me
     


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    Except I got an email saying they're having an event tonight with an additional 20% off...that's the nature of sales I guess.

    Always gets better after you buy it...and if you don't they don't have your size.

    Anyway, what's the best show tree for a size 11 UK 99F last that isn't too costly?
     


  10. SuitedDx

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    Is it possible that the "cracking" is actually the polish, not the leather, used by AS?
     


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    ^ it just might be the finishing. My last G&G (albeit from Barney's) captoe had something similar right on the nose of the toe, and of just a single shoe. Saphir didnt do anything for it. It looked like the burnishing had come off so I built up some additional color on the affected area
     
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    i feel enlightened after reading it
     
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    I had the same issue with a pair of C&J Somerville boots from Barney's. Cracking, just on the toe caps. Leather looked dried out. Some moisturizer and polish and it disappears. It comes back to the surface as much less visible than originally when my polish wears down, but when shined up, it's not noticeable at all anymore.
     


  14. j ingevaldsson

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    Thank you everyone for your input about the cracks! I'm not sure that the cracks are just in the finish, since they seem o o deeper than that, and you can really feel them with your fingers. I don't want to need to cover it up with polish all the time, so I'm going to send them back, I know it would bother me too much. I can take to cover the return shipping cost.
     


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    You shouldn't need to cover the return cost on a less than perfect shoe. I am sure Sarah & Julian will agree.
    A pity though, since it is a beutiful model.
     


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