ALFRED SARGENT Appreciation: Handgrade, Exclusive, etc.

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  1. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    UK9 in AS. I was tempted by the black Lombards, but I already have some C&J Conistons in black (the BBBF version) and I honestly don't wear them a lot, so it's not like I "need" another black boot ...
     
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  2. Torsion

    Torsion Senior member

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    What's your verdict on the quality of these in comparison to C&J (if you have any)?
    I want the Ramsey DM but also have my eye on either the C&J Lowndes or the HG Seymour - just looking for opinions as I don't yet own any AS but do have C&J
     
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    calidist Senior member

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    Yeah, I had those same boots in brown. The 325 last, or whatever C&J last they're on, didn't fit me well. The Lombard is a nice boot, but I don't think it is an versatile and attractive as the Hannover. Add the 9UK to your Gilt account wish list if you haven't already done so--wish list items often pop up.
     
  4. Concub1ne

    Concub1ne Senior member

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    I have the ramseys and would recommend them to anyone. I recently visited the C&J store, and to my eyes they beat the benchgrades with more attractive lasts and designs. I've never owned a pair though, so take that fwiw. I never handled the handgrades either, so I have no basis for comparison there.
     
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  5. Swede66

    Swede66 Senior member

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    I have C&J's. AS Exclusives are clearly above C&J Benchgrade. Roughly on par with C&J Handgrade IMO.
    Better in sole/waist treatment, on par on lasts (yeah, very subjective) and attention to details, maybe sligthly behind on quality of upper leather. C&J Handgrade has a certain "lustre" that I rarely see in other shoes. At the same price point I would probably slightly favour C&J Handgrades. Considering the actual prices I am certainly in favour of AS E.
     
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  6. Torsion

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    Looks like a pair of Ramseys in Brown oak are coming my way :)

    Thanks for the opinions, very helpful.
     
  7. SuitedDx

    SuitedDx Senior member

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    You'll really like them. Definitely much better than the Lowndes and a split between the Seymours with for me, the decision would just be wether I would like a cap or not.
     
  8. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Anyone had experience with this shoe? The AS Stepney in rustic grain with rubber Dianite soles. It seems like an ideal shoe for fall/winter to wear with cords, denim, etc.
    http://khakisofcarmel.com/shop/shoes/alfred-sargent-stepney-in-rustic-grain-301.html (This price also includes lasted trees)

    C&J makes a similar model called a Pembroke Derby. How would you compare the two as far as fit, feel, quality and the enjoyment of wearing them?
    http://www.bensilver.com/The-Pembroke-Derby,23287.html#.UX2sl-B18g8 (Shoe trees are extra)
     
  9. SuitedDx

    SuitedDx Senior member

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    In general I find AS' line to be pretty good; typically closer to C&J HG than BG. I don't have the Stepney but have other shoes/boots. I also have the Pembroke and I would say it depends if you want a short wing or LWB. The color of the Pembroke is also a lighter tan. I wear generally the same size on both brands.

    I think you can't go wrong with either shoe.
     
  10. Swede66

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    I have this shoe. Very nice country brogue. Last 87 is fairly roomy, I sized down 0.5 vs other AS i have on 109 and 99 lasts.
     
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    nickrut Senior member

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    Has anyone seen both the AS cherry color and the GG Cherry color? How do they compare?
     
  12. MGD83

    MGD83 Senior member

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    Swede66,

    I'm in the opposite boat when it comes to sizing. I had ordered a pair of Hannover boots on the 87 last in a 9.5UK and found it to be quite tight in the toe area for a boot. I had to size up to a 10UK.

    Also, I have just exchanged a pair of Ramsey size 10 for a 9.5, because I found the 10 ridiculously big on me.

    Anybody else had this experience? I have a pair of Alex boots on the way in the 104 last in a 9.5 so I'm hoping they fit bang on.
     
  13. Swede66

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    Feet are different :). It is clear that it is difficult to use other peoples sizing advice.
    For me, 99 is the most narrow, followed by 109 and with 87 as the roomiest one.
     
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    What is your US size? I'm usually a very comfortable 10.5D.
     
  15. Swede66

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    8.5D in Alden Barrie and Plaza if you asked me :)
     

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