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Alden Rugged Indy or Red Wing Heritage Beckman or other?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by dougoftheabaci, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. dougoftheabaci

    dougoftheabaci Member

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    I'm looking for a set of work/outdoor boots and am weighing my options. I've heard great things about the Indy and the Beckman but I'm having trouble deciding if either is right for me, or if another would be better.

    I quite like the style of both (and would consider something similar if a better solution was offered). One concern I have is that neither mentions how well they stand up to water and snow. Part of the reason that I'm getting these in the first place is that I'm going back to Vermont for New Years. I'll be there for a week and all I have right now are shoes with no tread at all. I need something that will hold up well, has good tread and can take some amount of water.

    What I need in terms of water resistance isn't full-on waterproof. I'd probably go for Timberlands or something to that effect if that's what I truly cared the most about. But I do want boots that walking along a slushy sidewalk with ankle-high snow won't leave my feet sodden and frozen. Good, wool socks will go a long way to help me in that regard but I want some protection from the boot as well.

    Would either of these boots fit the bill? And if not what are some alternatives? Thanks!

    Bonus points if its' something I can pick up here in San Francisco.
     
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  2. Gauss17

    Gauss17 Senior member

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    cathpah Senior member

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    Another option would be Wolverine 1000 mile boots.

    I own Beckmans (in black cherry) and 1000 miles (in shell cordovan), and I've tried on (and love) the Alden Indys....so they're all great boots. That said, if you're looking for a boot that you can beat up a bit (water/snow/etc) I wouldn't do that to an expensive boot like the Indys. While the Indys aren't overly formal, they are pretty damn expensive...so I'd want to keep them looking sharp. While I wouldn't wear my cordovan 1000 miles in crappy weather, I'd certainly wear a pair of 1000 miles in leather or my beckmans.

    Also, I agree with the above recommendation for using Obenaufs as your waterproofer.

    Edit: I'm a fellow New Englander, so I understand the weather you're talking about.
     
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  4. dougoftheabaci

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    The Wolverine 1000 looks very nice, but the sole is smooth which worries me. One of the reasons the Beckman and the Rugged Indy appealed to me was they have a slightly more aggressive tread, which is handy when on less than smooth ground.

    The White's look interesting. Wish there weren't so many options, haha.
     
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    Whites look weird in my opinion. That high tapered heel just looks off.
     
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    If you want one pair of boots, go for the Red Wings. If you like old school hiking styles, check out Danner's Stumptown stuff. Indy boots are aesthetically great and definitely comfortable, but I notice the lack of traction when walking on dirt or grass. I know the 404 with the lug sole would alleviate that problem, but the options I listed above are cheaper and generally more aesthetically pleasing.

    Additionally, pretty much all of the Red Wings and Danners will look better with age while certain Alden leathers will just look beat up.

    White's are amazing and you can customize the sole to your liking, but you have to special order. Wait time is around 6-8 weeks at the moment. I think that the tapered heel is one of their great advantages both visually and functionally, but it does lend itself to outdoorsy or "heritage" styles.
     
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    bellyhungry Senior member

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    Given the OP's requirements, I would recommend the Beckman - attractive, practical, versatile, aggresive sole, good price, and easily obtainable.
     
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    Spencer Senior member

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    This.

    I own 3 Indy's, love'em (I am also in L.A. so we do not have a "winter") I wouldn't beat up my Indy's, though they are aging nicely with some lite scuffs. I would vote for the Wolverine 1000 Mile Boot. Super comfortable, and takes a beating well, looks even better with age.
     
  9. Gauss17

    Gauss17 Senior member

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    You can get it with a block heel.
    You can get them with as aggressive a tread as you see fit. I simply posted some examples. [​IMG]
     
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    I have a pair of Alden 403's (brown CXL Indy) and a pair of Red Wing 9015 (black) that I wore throughout the Minnesota winter last year. I wore the 403's a lot more because they are so much more comfortable. In fact, I think my pair of Red Wings still need more breaking in. As far as traction goes, the 403's have the neo-cork sole that has no tread pattern of any kind, but I was fairly careful when I wore them out during the snowy months and didn't experience any problems. The Red Wings, with their version if the commando sole, didn't feel like they offered that much more grip because the rubber on the sole gets hard in the cold anyway. Neither boot allowed water or snow to seep in during the limited times I've walked in ankle deep snow in them, but I did put sno-seal on the Indy's.

    For this winter, I've got a pair of black Indy 401's to replace the Red Wing 9015's because I found a pair at a good deal. The Red Wings are nice boots, but I just love the Indy's a lot more because they are comfortable and I think they look great. If you're not doing anything extreme in the snow and take proper precaution walking in snowy conditions, I think the Indy's should be just fine.

    BTW, those custom Whites look very interesting. If I was in the market for a pair of boots, I'd definitely give those a try.
     
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    I have a pair of beckmans which i wear all winter. they are waterproof and great for the most part. just realize in very snowy/icy conditions, you can defintely lose your footing. I have busted my ass a few times while going down icy hills or streets at ski resorts. But I look great doing it. :D
     
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  14. dougoftheabaci

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    I like the look of the Beckman 9030. I might have to find a pair of those to try on this weekend!
     
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    are those 9030 hard to break...? it's really look rugged boots...
     
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    sorry double post
     
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    I'm a 9D measured on the Brannock device. I wear an 8.5D for the 9030 and for reference an 8D for the iron ranger. I think you can safely stay true to size for the 9030 especially if you wear thicker socks or if you ant to add a thin insole. However I like my boots a little more snug (not uncomfortably so) and I wear thinner socks so 8.5 fits me perfectly. As far as breaking in, well, they're Red Wings so they are tough but compared to the Irong Rangers the 9030 has been a pleasure to break in. They are lovely boots.
     
  18. NefariousSabatour

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    everything mentioned in this thread is a great boot (i have all of them except the whites), but the beckman is going to be the best for what you described.

    and only total wimps have a problem breaking them in.
     

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