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Alden or Crockett & Jones Snuff Suede Loafer

Mister McGee

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After purchasing the incorrect size of Grant Stone loafers in suede navy, I decided to invest in a pair of Crockett & Jones Harvard 2 or Alden 6221L unlined penny mocc in snuff suede.

I have no brand loyalty to either and simply want to find the best loafer for my taste/needs. I am in my late 40's and looking to own fewer but higher quality items. I want a loafer that I can wear for business casual (olive/khaki/navy colored chinos), indigo/dark denim on the weekend and a loafer I can pack while traveling that I can wear all day and still look good at night. Basically, I want the "Swiss Army knife" of loafers (if possible).

My wife is tired of hearing me talking about which model to order so she suggested ordering both to compare side by side. I received the C&J pair first and was instantly impressed. I measure US 10 on the brannock (medium width, C but closer to D) and the UK 9 fit like a glove (comfortable and gripped my foot nicely without feeling any bit tight). It looks sleek but not too sleek and the quality is impressive. I surely thought this was the pair for me and really purchased the Alden to confirm my suspicion that the C&J would be the best choice.

Today I received the Alden (sizes 9.5 and 10 to compare) and while it obviously reminds me of the Grant Stone loafer, it was super comfortable as soon as I slipped into it. My wife returned from work and favors the Alden. At this point, I am not sure which pair to keep

Few notes, I selected rubber soles as I want something that is comfortable to wear all day and can be worn in various climates including in the UK/Ireland where my wife's family lives and we visit often enough.


On the Alden, on one shoe, a small part of the stitching looks a bit sloppy (see photo included). The 6221L is machine stitched but it is disappointing to see this imperfection on a $600+ shoe. If I keep the Alden's, I will exchange it for another pair.

Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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The Noble Dandy

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CJs all the way. They are more elegant and with less contrast between the stitches and the leather. You can easily wear them with almost any outfit from shorts to flannel suits. The Alden looks a bit too rough and casual for my taste
 

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At this point pick the pair that's the most comfortable. A loafer that fits oddly, cramps your toes or instep, or causes any other discomforts is not worth it.

Aesthetics wise, they will both work for your circumstances. Aldens all the more with jeans.
 

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Agree with Noble. If this were for a 'summer loafer', I'd go with the higher contrast stitching & welt on the Alden (comfort/fit being equivalent). For your description of an all purpose day to night shoe, definitely the more subtle style of the C&J. The Alden doesn't really fit that bill for me.
 

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Sounds like the C&J fits you great and i agree that it looks more versatile for the use case you describe. Should be an easy choice.
 

Mister McGee

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Thanks for the replies. I am leaning toward going with the C&J. To be certain fit wise, I will wear them all day while working from home today. I do think the Alden are just slightly more comfortable but that is because of the wider last but the trade off (to me) is that they look more casual which is great with denim but trying on both with even chinos, the C&J look smarter.
 

Mister McGee

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At this point pick the pair that's the most comfortable. A loafer that fits oddly, cramps your toes or instep, or causes any other discomforts is not worth it.

Aesthetics wise, they will both work for your circumstances. Aldens all the more with jeans.
Both of them are comfortable, Alden maybe a tiny bit more do to he wider last but the quality seems to be better with C&J. Looks wise, I think the C&J looks smarter overall and the Alden looks better worn casually with denim. I think I will stick with the C&J.
 

Mister McGee

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At this point pick the pair that's the most comfortable. A loafer that fits oddly, cramps your toes or instep, or causes any other discomforts is not worth it.

Aesthetics wise, they will both work for your circumstances. Aldens all the more with jeans.
Luckily, neither cramps my toes or instep. I agree that Alden looks better with jeans but wearing both with chinos, the C&J looked smarter in my opinion.
 

Mister McGee

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Sounds like the C&J fits you great and i agree that it looks more versatile for the use case you describe. Should be an easy choice.
Wearing both of them over the next few days while working from home but I am leaning towards keeping the C&J. I think overall the C&J will be more versatile, being a bit smarter/sleek looking but I can still wear them with jeans. The Alden is very nice and comfortable but definitely more of a casual shoe.
 

Mister McGee

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Agree with Noble. If this were for a 'summer loafer', I'd go with the higher contrast stitching & welt on the Alden (comfort/fit being equivalent). For your description of an all purpose day to night shoe, definitely the more subtle style of the C&J. The Alden doesn't really fit that bill for me.
I think you are correct about the subtle style of the C&J works best for my needs.
 

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