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Alden norwegian bluchers

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mack, Dec 19, 2003.

  1. mack

    mack Active Member

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    I need some advice on Aldens from the experts.

    I have a pair of cordovan Alden norwegians style 2210 in a 10.5D.  These shoes are a little tight.

    I would like to pick up a pair of the Alden Fan shoes from Alden of Carmel. The AF39 is a norwegian blucher in the Fan series and it looks like the vamp is longer than on the standard 2210 model.  Is this true?

    Is the lug sole on some of the other Fan models comfortable?

    Also, would I be better off going up to an 11D or wider to a 10.5E?

    Finally, thew Fan norwegians and loafers look more elegant than the standard models.  Is this the case?

    Thanks for your help.

  2. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    You are right: Alden-of-Carmel's AF 26 has six eyelets and thus a longer vamp. Most shoes (also Alden's other Norwegians) have five eyelets.

    I cannot tell you whether 10 ½ E or 11 D is the better size for you. If you go for ½ larger the shoe will get longer and wider all over by about 4mm (3/8"). If you only increase the width, the shoe will get wider, but the overall length stays the same. In an ideal world you should try the shoes on, to see which size is better.

    Actually Norwegian shoes are considered a more sporty style. The French call them "chasse" (hunting shoes). But they will go perfectly (particular in cordovan) with any suit, bar the most formal of occasions.

  3. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes, it is comfortable. Keep in mind, though, that it's just hard rubber stitched over a regular leather outsole. It provides traction, not cushioning. The shoes are about as comfortable as standard leather-soled shoes.

    The only way to know for sure is to try both sizes on. Keep in mind that 2210 is made on the Aberdeen last, while AF39 is made on the Plaza last. Different lasts, different fittings. FWIW, I've found Aberdeen to be a touch on the narrow side.

    Talk to Adam Knott at Alden of Carmel. He's very familiar with all of the lasts, and he'll probably be able to ask the right questions to make a sensible recommendation about the size. He'll also allow you to exchange the shoes for another size if needed, provided that you haven't done anything silly with the shoes.

    Well, they're certainly more unusual. The standard Alden shoe strives to be conservative and sensible, while the Fan shoe strives to be a touch more interesting. I think that Adam's use of whiskey, mahogany, and cigar shell cordovan instead of the standard Color 8 or black makes for more elegant shoes, as does his use of the Plaza last. Some of the models come off as being a bit clunky because of the extended welts, but overall, I think your statement is accurate.

    In particular, from the pictures, I would think that AF39 would be a more elegant shoe than 2210.

  4. jrh

    jrh Well-Known Member

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    Dec 25, 2003
    Are you guys impressed by Alden shoes.  I have a few pairs from Alden of Carmel.  The cordovan is nice, but the workmanship is ....well, doesn't move me.

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