I purchased these Alden for Brooks Brothers Cordovan #8 Unlined Leisure Handsewn (LHS) Penny Loafers last year for my son off eBay. They were originally from the BB clearance center and are marked inside (picture 5) to prevent returns. They are size 8.5D, unlined and I believe on the Van last. They were worn once outside but just don't work for my son so selling here. The right shoe is slightly lighter in color on the vamp and is best seen in pictures 5 & 6. You can see the Brooks Brothers description here. Shoes with box and bags included. Shoe trees not included. Priority mail shipping CONUS for $325.