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AE Hancock and AE Park Avenue sizing comparison


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Feb 6, 2008
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Can anyone provide me some insight on how the #4 and #5 lasts match up? I'm looking at a #4 (the Hancock) in an 11D, but my only AE experience is the park avenue. I understand that the #5 last is longer and more narrow than most other last and that the #4 is shorter and wider.

Does anyone out there own both shoes and if so, what sizes do you wear in both?


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Aug 7, 2004
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I own both. Both are in the same size. I find that both the A-E #4 and #5 lasts are a good fit on my feet in my normal size, but not everyone finds this to be the case. The A-E #4 last was my favorite last--the most comfortable on my feet. Alas, it is now gone with the wind.


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Goodyear Welted Styles
There are ten different lasts used to manufacture Allen-Edmonds welted footwear, or those styles designated by a four-digit number. The last number is the same as the style's final digit.

0 Last (000)
A more pronounced cone and elongated forpart with a subtly clipped toe create a sleek silhouette. Top Sellers: Evanston, Manhattan, Berkley, Bel Air

1 Last (511)
Similar to the 7 Last from heel to the ball of the foot, yet with a more rounded, fuller fitting toe. Top Sellers: Leeds, Wilbert, Shelton, Bradley

2 Last (692)
A square toe last with a more pronounced cone. Developed to accommodate a PORONÂ
cushion inner sole. Top Sellers: Perry, Warren

5 Last (65)
This is the longest in length of all of our lasts; best for a long, narrow foot. Top Sellers: Park Avenue

6 Last (206)
A long, sleek last similar to the 8 (108) last, but with a narrower heel for a closer fit. Top Sellers: Leyland

7 Last (97)
Best fit for the average foot; similar to the 3 Last but lays flatter in the toe area. Top Sellers: Grayson, MacNeil

8 Last (108)
Elongated forepart with a tapered and flatter toe; similar to the 2 last. Top Sellers: Thayer, Hale, Delray, Clifton

Ashton 8 Last (678)
Modeled after the 7 last, but with a fuller squared-off toe. A good fitting last that is built with additional depth to accommodate Allen Edmonds removable orthotic. Top Sellers: Ashton

9 Last (79)
Tapered back portion pushes the foot forward to fit low across the top of the foot rather than the instep. Top Sellers: Randolph, Cody

Athleisure Styles
All of Allen-Edmonds sophisticated athletic-inspired Athleisure styles are manufactured on one last.

Athleisure Last (708)
An elongated forpart and low profile enhance the comfort features. Top Sellers: Peyton

Handsewn Styles
Handsewn Styles are constructed on one of six lasts. Look below to find the characteristics of each last.

Handsewn Last (114)
Semi-round toe handsewn last. Shorter to reduce slipping in the heel and gapping in the sides. Top Sellers: Walden, Nashua, Maxfield, Stowe, Holton

Handsewn Last (145)
Tapered, square toe handsewn last with an elongated forpart; fuller fitting. Top Sellers: Hamlin, Burke

Handsewn Last (800)
A classic handsewn last with a semi-rounded toe and roomier instep; longer forepart than the 555 or 114 lasts. Top Sellers: Hampton

Handsewn Last (1005)
An updated look on our classic handsewn last. A longer forpart and low profile create a perfect fit. Top Sellers: Campbell, Alton

Handsewn Last (2592)
A rounder, fuller toe handsewn. 1/8" longer than the 114 last to accommodate a fuller sock liner with heel-to-toe padding. Top Sellers: Eastport

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