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AE 5 Last Size vs. Brannock Size

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by althanis, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. althanis

    althanis Senior member

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    I want to pick up a pair or 2 of AE shoes from allaboutshoes, but since they'll be my first pair, I wanted to try them on first.

    I've searched lots of places in Toronto, and none of them have any AE shoes on the 5 last. The Brannock device says I'm an 8.5 D. How well does this size transfer to the AE 5 last? Can I just trust it and order the 8.5D of the Fifth Avenues?
     
  2. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    I find the 5 to fit true to size. However, this is subjective depending on the shape of your foot, the height of your instep, and how you like your shoes to fit. i'd say 8.5D is the best place to start.
     
  3. jay_spec

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    For me, I have to go down half a size on the 5 last. Depending on the return policy, you could order two pairs (one in 8D and one in 8.5D) and just exchange whichever doesn't fit.
     
  4. Thanks SF (a new me)

    Thanks SF (a new me) Senior member

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    my brannock size is 7..i have 6.5 for Strand due to elongated shape of the last. I prefer a snug fit when wearing balmoral style...
     
  5. Mimosa

    Mimosa Well-Known Member

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    The 5 is a long last. I wear it true to size, but I probably could go down a 1/2 size and still be comfortable.

    It is surprising that no store has the 5 last. Have you tried Harry Young's?

    http://www.harryyoungshoes.ca/

    Mim
     
  6. althanis

    althanis Senior member

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    Yep, I went in to Harry Young about 2 afternoons ago.

    Edit: And thanks for the responses so far. I'll talk to him and see what's the best solution we can come up with. Very helpful so far!
     
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    csc67 Senior member

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    I would say try a 8E in the Allen Edmond # 5 last - They didn't have anything in the # 5 last like Park Ave, Fifth Ave, Strand is crazy since they are AE's biggest sellers for years.

    My Allen Edmonds Strands are 7.5E and are tad over 11 3/4 inches long and 4 1/4 inches wide
     
  8. ajmanouk

    ajmanouk Senior member

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    I'd be very careful without trying on a pair of shoes. I was measured at Harry Rosen with a Brannock as a 14EEE and turned out to actually be a 13E.

    Quite possibly, the salesman just fucked up. He didn't really know what he was doing.
     
  9. sugarbutch

    sugarbutch Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm a 10D, and the salesman at the AE store here in SF brought out a 9.5 in the Strand and McAllister. Both fit perfectly.
     
  10. deveandepot1

    deveandepot1 Senior member

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    I find the #5 last to be true to size. I am an 11A and an 11A fits fine.
     
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    NORE Senior member

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    Actually, I found out what my true size in shoes was with the Strand on the #5. 12.5D. I'd echo TTS.
     
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    I don't think, the Brannock devise is any useful. In the end, it really depends on your foot shape.

    For what's worth, my data indicates that over 35% of all people who rated shoes on the #5 last as fairly, or good fitting, rated their "true size".

    By "true size" I mean the maximum length of your feet, measured while standing upright, converted to US sizes, added 1.5 units, and rounded to the next half size. Alternatively, get the Allen Edmonds sizing guide from their homepage, and subtract half a size from the result.
     
  13. althanis

    althanis Senior member

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    I guess if this says anything, it says that size is truly unique. I'll have to keep checking around until I can actually try them on.
     
  14. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    +1

    Brannock devices are true to...Brannock devices.

    Shoe sizes are true to the sizing system of the factory, the sizing system of the last...and that's extremely arbitrary and...and your own subjective druthers.

    Sometimes Brannock devices and a particular shoe size will synchronize. More often than not never to be repeated.

    Few shoe salesmen have any real knowledge of foot anatomy much less proper fit....it's not really their fault.
     
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  15. spicolli1976

    spicolli1976 Active Member

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    Stupid question but could you send a link to the AE page on the allaboutshoes site? I can't find it.

    Thanks!!!
     
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    althanis Senior member

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    So the AE fit guide sized me at 9.5, but I bought a 9 instead. It's still big! I probably need an 8.

    So now I'm stuck with a brown AE Fifth Avenue size 9D for sale :(. I put it up on the B&S, but no luck so far. I'm stuck with a $300 shoe I can't wear.
     
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    Did you try the shoes on? IMO if you buy a pair of shoes you haven't tried on and they don't fit, you have nobody to blame but yourself. I'd say sell them for what you can and chalk up the loss to a learning experience. Really figure out your sizes and you'll eventually find some good deals in the future that will help you more than recoup your loss.
     
  20. althanis

    althanis Senior member

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    I know I took a chance, but if you read the earlier threads you'll see that it's impossible to find them in Toronto.
     

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