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Advice needed for shoes

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by BrownieElf, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. dmash

    dmash Senior member

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    Seriously, the Steve Maddens don't look ok, they look absolutely horrible.

    Bootcuts are a no go. Get straight leg, why get that stupid flare? It looks tacky.

    What are you trying to build up? A dress wardrobe or a casual wardrobe? How old are you? If you're a 21 year old divorcee, basic tees, jeans and chucks are basic casual. If you're 30, button downs and chinos are casual.
     
  2. BrownieElf

    BrownieElf Active Member

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    vespajg...i see your point, and i have been doing that for the last few months. What i lack though is for lack of a better word, a guide to whats what. I think t-shirts, boot-cut jeans, and dress shoes (those maddens) looks good....that don't mean its right, or that it does...thats what i've worn for the better part of a year, with a few other types of shirts, sweaters mixed in. All with a brown leather jacket from kohls over the winter. I bought that suit from express (and i'm sure its not the greatest) mostly for the jacket, because of looking at web sites....figured i could mix solid color t-shirts with it, or a casual dress shirt. I even went back and bought the matching pants, so i would have a suit if needed. The guy i spoke with at nordstrom gave me some ideas, and i liked his shoes, so i found a similar pair that i could afford...started researching what i could wear with them, and it led me to an archived post from here. I literally have 3 pairs of jeans that are "whacked" [​IMG] maybe 10 t-shirts (black, white, earth tones) no dress shirts since the damn thing shrank..well i did buy one from some english designer from nordstrom, but its in the mail. That suit i posted from express, those Italian wing tip oxfords, and 2 pair of dockers true chino's that still have tags on them. I have to wear something while i learn. Nothing beats human input, as apposed to marketing imo.
     
  3. BrownieElf

    BrownieElf Active Member

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    I'm 40.

    I got the boot cut because the straight cut jeans are always tight around my calves. Maybe thats normal, it just bugs me. I always thought that flair looked cool.

    As far as the wardrobe goes, i'm a firefighter. So i don't dress up alot....so i should start with casual first, but with things in mind that can be more formal if possible.

    I like the light blazer look with colored t-shirts, or dress shirts underneath.
    I have a brown Italian leather jacket that i just got fixed thats sheepskin.

    I like the look of the military jackets, but have no idea what would go with them.

    I also don't have any shorts that fit, so i might go with those chino's, but i don't know what goes with those either.

    How would those oxfords be classified? Could i wear them with straight jeans, and that blazer? With a t-shirt, or dress shirt?
     
  4. Gutman

    Gutman Senior member

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    OP - You sound a bit like me, divorced (37) and hadn't paid attention to clothes for years cos ex-wife was a handbrake and very different ideas from me. My tips:

    1. You will probably lose weight now you can get back into having a "life" and exercising. Don't buy too big (except for shoes, cos people often buy too small).

    2. You will experiment with different styles, and have some "fails" along the way. Don't ask me about the time I got white jeans...

    3. Think about the things you liked when you were much younger: you won't necessarily dress the same way, but they may provide some cues. "Who" you are doesn't really change. For me, tweed, brogues, chucks, skinnies and preppy. did i mention brogues? Sounds odd but it sort of works. Varsity jacket was in storage for 20 years...

    4. Work out the basics of dressing well, including which silhouettes / colours / styles are flattering and befit your age and status. V-neck tees and sweaters are good. Avoid hip flair on jeans/pants. For an older gent remember: colours should get more neutral as you age, and patterns smaller. If you wear a statement piece or colour, don't crowd it out with other standout things. Dressing like a scenester kid will make you look like a dork. Dump the bright ties.

    5. Focus on quality pieces which fit well, rather than quantity. Everyone says this, but of course no-one does it, until they go through the phase of buying / trying everything.

    6. Look at street fashion / style blogs (including this forum) and collect pics of looks that you like or think work well. Not copying as such but getting your eye in on what sorts of combinations and styles work. It's also more the attidude of the wearer. You wear the clothes, not the other way around.

    7. KISS: classic jeans (Levis are great IMO), slim tees and chucks work. Slim pants, fitted sport jacket, nice shoes work. Pea coats work. Varsity jackets work. Cords work. Chinos and deck shoes work. Plaid shirt and boots work (sort of).

    8. Befriend a good tailor: small alterations to jackets, shirts, pants, and proper hemming for the type of jeans / pants, make a world of difference for almost no extra cost.

    9. Be yourself and go for it. Might be the last chance you get. Have some fun. Smile.
     
  5. BrownieElf

    BrownieElf Active Member

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    meso,

    it was put to me to just get those boots. Period. I then asked a question about boots, or alternatives, and got WTF.

    I didn't get an explanation, or understanding so to speak of why. My shoes are too slim, or you only wear boots with bootcut, or you have to wear a bigger bulkier shoe to pull it off. Maybe i read to much into it. I joined the forum because the archived threads i read were full of information and explanations...i was met with a few one liners, and no explanations.

    And again, point taken...i am going to look around. I need a better understanding of whats goes with what, then i can start looking at quality too.
     
  6. BrownieElf

    BrownieElf Active Member

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    lol gutman...

    I had to google...tweed, chucks, and brogues...among other things too.

    I have no tweed, although some of the blazers look cool.....i have a wool one, from when i was younger (risky business type of look) don't know if thats out of style or not.

    Chucks...are you talking about converse shoes? I always liked the look of those too...and bought a pair once....they killed my feet with no arch support...are there similar shoes like that with better support? the only athletic shoes i have are a pair of while new balance.

    Brogues....searching for that showed boots and shoes....some were wingtip....would those oxfords i bought be considered brogues?

    I already screwed up and bought too big...started out in 42 waist....now i'm a 31-33 depending on the brand...mostly 32's....t-shirts went from XXL to M I bought clothes a few times along the way, cause i didn't know where it would end.....evidently my ex weighs 83 pounds.

    I had to google pea coat too....think i have one....my brother gave me a jacket says weatherproof garment company....black 85% wool single row of buttons.

    What is hip flair?
     
  7. norcal_indy

    norcal_indy Senior member

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    Just wanted to mention that I sent you a PM with some thoughts on shoes/boots to help get you started. Thought it was worth letting you know in the thread in case you didn't know that there's a PM system since you're new.
     
  8. djan

    djan Well-Known Member

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    Do more research to get an idea of what you want and how much it will cost. You have got some good advice from the previous posters here.
     
  9. Telleur

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    askmen.com released a style bible that you can torrent (why buy it when you can steal it? harvard supports piracy!) The guide is pretty thorough, I would highly advise looking there first. For shoes look for a goodyear welt, you can get them resoled and they can last you your entire life. This is where you'll want to splurge on your wardrobe. The Wolverine 1000 mile collection is a nice place to start. Clarks desert boots are a great choice too. You can wear oxfords with jeans, they are casual shoes. Alot of style-centric magazines say to look for straight leg jeans GQ also has an whole article about jeans http://www.gq.com/style/wear-it-now/...-jeans#slide=1 GAP sells cheap selvedge jeans. Levis 511s are well fitted cheap skinny jeans. I personally like 511s and APCs. Military jackets are a great way to punch up casual style, wear them T-shirts level casuality (might not be a word) Alpha industries makes alot of military jackets, personally I don't like them. SOD gear and Arktis make really badass military jackets. SOD and Arktis are really well designed. Also note that alot of things in civillian society (peacoats, flip flops, desert boots, trench coats, zoot suits, commando sweaters) came from the World Wars, so military surplus stores are a great place to look. Your probably on a budget, this can help as to where to look. http://www.gq.com/style/wear-it-now/...budget#slide=1 Don't mind the arrogant assholes here, Thank you for your service to this country and Welcome to SF.
     
  10. Rosenberg

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    I hate how these types of threads turn out to be "If you're ___ years old you should wear ___" or something to that effect. For all we know he could be a lifelong badass motherfucker who would look right at home in badass shit.
    OP just don't overthink it too much. I know you want help but hanging out here can seriously mess with your head if you don't already have a good idea of what you're after. I could tell you to stock up on "basics" but you probably don't even know what that means (no offense). Lots of members here have styles that the general public would not appreciate. Going from not caring to reading this forum is a huge jump, but good luck and don't take anyone too seriously.
     
  11. Wiggles

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    [​IMG]

    Seriously OP don't buy what you like. Just read this board for weeks.


    Yeah, buy what this forum recommends. You'll think that you're styling on everyone around you in a month when in reality, you'll be ordinary/boring.
     
  12. vespajg

    vespajg Well-Known Member

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    "Also note that alot of things in civillian society (peacoats, flip flops, desert boots, trench coats, zoot suits, commando sweaters) came from the World Wars, so military surplus stores are a great place to look"

    I was going to mention this too...before you buy on overstyle-ized version of something, check with a military surplus store for an M-65 jacket or other style casual jacket, cargo pants, etc. Not saying you should wear them together, but the authentic stuff is better than a Gap knockoff IMO and usually cheaper...
     
  13. Prada_Ferragamo

    Prada_Ferragamo Senior member

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    This threak brings the lulz
     
  14. BrownieElf

    BrownieElf Active Member

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    I actually asked a co-worker who was (is) a marine, and he told me of 2 places...one is real close, i used to go there as a kid and buy rip-stop camo pants. I'm gonna check the place out.

    I like the look of that A2 jacket...and the M65 looks cool too....i want to see this stuff in person though. Adding a jacket to my wardrobe this summer is a must. The only thing i have is an Italian leather...all my other stuff is either for winter, or way to big.

    Supposedly they sell boots too, not sure if that is a good look or not, but i'm going to go and see.
     
  15. uNiCoRnPriNcEsSx

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    Listen to what's been given to you, lol. If you hang around and actually learn something, what you think looks "cool" will change. Look at the WAYWT thread in the SW&D forum and find people/outfits that make you say "damn" out loud. Try to find out what brand it is, add it to your database of brands to research, and continue for at least 2-3 months.

    And hold off on revamping your wardrobe right now. Otherwise you'll be out 2-3k before you even know it in the span of a month.
     
  16. BrownieElf

    BrownieElf Active Member

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    I am doing that so to speak. Right now, i'm kind of in a bind because all i have to wear is a few t-shirts, and 3 pair of boot-cut jeans that everyone here loves so much. I have a few other shirts, and i don't think i should have threw that button down from express in the dryer. I have no shorts. I did order 2 quality dress shirts from nordstram. (well one from them, one from the same designer off of ebay)

    I want to go look at those military jackets in person and form and opinion.

    I can go get one pair of straight cut jeans. levi 501's or something. Maybe the brand i bought fit funny, and a different brand in straight leg will fit better...

    Chucks were recommended as a possiblity...the Purcell versions i guess are alittle more comfortable, or the inside is removable to put a better insert in.


    So far I know that jeans are going to make up a large part of what i wear...they always have.
    I know that i like the way a blazer looks with jeans.
    I know i'm going to have to get some tailored button down dress shirts...
    I still like t-shirts.

    I love those oxfords i bought, eventually i'm going to have stuff to wear with them.
    I'm going to look at different boots...side zipper would be a big selling point for me.
    I like shoes that i can just step into.

    I have been looking at those threads....probably around 4-5 hours worth of reading already. I'm stuck at work until 0700 tomorrow...I'll be reading a ton.

    I slowed down, I don't remember who said it, but i do need to take a step back, but i also need to get a few things to wear as i learn.
     
  17. Gutman

    Gutman Senior member

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    well, you won't get things right straight away no matter how much you research it. but hopefully you can shorten the odds on having too many fails by narrowing down the sorts of thing you like / might work for you. Good luck with it all, and be sure to post some pics in WAYWT thread - you'll be surprised how much your look will change over a couple of years.

    PS - Good skills re the weight loss BTW - loosing excess weight and getting fit is part of the deal, not just new clothes. If you get your cr_p in the right bucket, you'll probably meet a nice classy lady! Worked for me anyway, very happy now. Don't know what your digs are like, but getting the interior decor sorted works wonders too. Again, that takes a bit of thinking about. I started off looking at modern minimalist, careened through Scandanavian mid-century, and ended up with Morrocan / campaign outpost of empire... Anyway, if you really want to start an argument on these forums go to Mens Clothing and criticise someones sofa or desk.
     
  18. Pash

    Pash Well-Known Member

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    I highly reccomend checking out Put This On. Jesse's practical advice on men's fashion has been very helpful to me. Start here.

    Also,
    I wouldn't be caught dead buying boot cut jeans but after trying on a pair of Wrangler 47MWZ on a whim, I am a convert. The flare is subtle. I now prefer raw Wrangler to 501xx.
     
  19. Vaio

    Vaio Senior member

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    a picture of you, along with your age would def help.

    If you're over 30, (sounds like you are) I would suggest against sneakers like chucks/purcells etc. I'd say wear boots or some dress shoes..
     

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