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Advice for new wardrobe; mtm or rtw at my budget?

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I am taking a new job that requires relatively nice business dress. I have 3 suits, none of which are particularly nice. The best one is a black one from HSM from Nordstrom's. I need probably 2-3 suits or so, plus some nice new shoes, ties, and shirts. Future co-workers (though more senior and much more wealthy) wear Kiton and Brioni, etc. I can't afford those brands, but I want to look respectable. I'd like to spend around $4K-$5K including everything.

Would it make more sense to buy MTM suits from one of the places in New York or RTW stuff? Any specific brands/shops you could specify would also be very helpful.

Finally, what is the general consensus on the places in New York that charge ~$3K for 3 suits plus some shirts and miscellany? Are these any good? Are they better than RTW at the same price points?

Thanks.
 

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If RTW fits you, I would recommend it. On discount prices, you could easily meet your budget with change to spare.
 

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Dang, an entire wardrobe in three paragraphs. I'm impressed. As a unofficial junior member of the shoe cognoscenti I would suggest waiting out for a sample sale or the next Barney's warehouse sale in August (if you can wait that long).

Secondly, if you live around NYC, I think that Geneva or AC MTM might be a better suggestion for the shirtings. Despite my love for Borrelli fabrics, the shirts fit like tents on me and the cuffs require an extra $12 for shortening...otherwise, not such a great deal IMHO.

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Future co-workers (though more senior and much more wealthy) wear Kiton and Brioni, etc.
Dare I ask what job you are taking where the senior folks are wearing Kiton and Brioni? Hmmm.
 

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First of all,welcome to the forum..

As you peruse the older threads,and post new ones,you'll find styleForum has many very knowledgeable gentlemen,willing to help on a myriad of subjects. I have learned a great deal from them.

IMO,unless your body has unusual proportions (e.g. very athletic,with a large chest/neck,small waist; odd-shaped feet),RTW would provide a better value.

Shopping at the sales,outlet stores suggested here will also help you stretch your budget. If you aren't already familiar with manufacturers or fabrics to look for,a quick search of this forum will surely help.

Best of luck with your new job.
 

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Future co-workers (though more senior and much more wealthy) wear Kiton and Brioni, etc.
Dare I ask what job you are taking where the senior folks are wearing Kiton and Brioni? Hmmm.
Much appreciated for all the great advice. Woodbury Commons definitely sounds like a good possibility (and glancing on eBay seems to show good Zegna deals, though I am a bit concerned about authenticity). I'm about as standard as they come (42R, 5'11", 175lbs), and I've never had fitting problems before, so I'm thinking RTW probably will make more sense. Going to work in a LBO (leveraged buyout) shop. I work in one now as well (just not one that dresses well).
 

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Woodbury Commons definitely sounds like a good possibility (and glancing on eBay seems to show good Zegna deals, though I am a bit concerned about authenticity).
There's some threads on the forums about this (if we're talking about the same thing). You're right to question the authenticity as there are an abundance of suits being billed as Zegna suits when they are merely suits made with Zegna cloth. You're probably better off going to outlets like Woodbury.
 

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LA Guy,
How do Barba shirts fit? I've seen some ebay ones that I love, but I'm slim (love Jil, Helmut, dior fit) and would like a good fitting selection of shirts for business attire.
Pete
 

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ballines, I'm curious about your build. How would you describe it? Like Tobey Maguire / Ethan Hawke (slim)? Brad Pitt / Terrell Owens (chiselled)? Russell Crowe / Mel Gibson (regular)? John Travolta / Sean Connery (burly)? The Rock (muscular)? I'm asking this because a friend of mine who played QB in college is 6'1 and 210 lbs (regular build) and he wears a 42R. How do you like your fit? To give you an idea, take a look at the Men's fashion pictures on the Oscar Web site. I prefer Joaquin Phoenix's natural fit Armani tux -- sloped shoulders and trim in the body -- over the squared shoulder sartorial Zegna, which doesn't look as good on Adrian Brody's gaunt frame. BTW, Jim Carey's suit appears to big for him. I agree that you should get three shoes, but I would suggest that one of them be a dressy slip-on, such as the Donald Pliner Peers. ps: how do you know that the folks at the new company wear Kiton and Brioni?
 

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Thanks LA Guy,
They sound right up my alley for work and such... I may grab one to try.
Pete
 

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ballines, I'm curious about your build. How would you describe it? Like Tobey Maguire / Ethan Hawke (slim)? Brad Pitt / Terrell Owens (chiselled)? Russell Crowe / Mel Gibson (regular)? John Travolta / Sean Connery (burly)? The Rock (muscular)? I'm asking this because a friend of mine who played QB in college is 6'1 and 210 lbs (regular build) and he wears a 42R. How do you like your fit? To give you an idea, take a look at the Men's fashion pictures on the Oscar Web site. I prefer Joaquin Phoenix's natural fit Armani tux -- sloped shoulders and trim in the body -- over the squared shoulder sartorial Zegna, which doesn't look as good on Adrian Brody's gaunt frame. BTW, Jim Carey's suit appears to big for him. I agree that you should get three shoes, but I would suggest that one of them be a dressy slip-on, such as the Donald Pliner Peers. ps: how do you know that the folks at the new company wear Kiton and Brioni?
I'd probably say somewhere in between slim and regular. I have a bit of barrel chest which might explain it a little bit, and of the suits I own, I think some are 41s and some are 42s. Carey's does look too big, but I think Brody's fit looks pretty good. Kiton/Brioni was heard from friends who were former employees.
 

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Out of those actors, I think the best dressed are, in descending order:

#3 - Kevin Spacey, can't say I like the notch lapels, but a good, classic look.

#2 - Pierce Brosnan. As much as I don't like him and find him to be a bit of a pansy, he does look sharp. Damn you foppish Brits.

#1 - Sidney Poitier. Both for his sweet tux and for his daughters - GOOD GOD.
 

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