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Advice about Luxury Shopping

Mohair

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Allow me to preface this rant with two pieces of information:

1. Although this is a new account I have been a member for a very long time, but I wish to keep my semi-professional opinions away from my dastardly personal brand.

2. I have worked for ten years at many of the forum favourite brands. From stints at several houses on Savile Row to global fashion houses by way of Jermyn Street and Oxford Street. The information presented bellow is not applicable to all stores or brands, but in my experience 80% of it applies to 80% of retailers.

Things to do:

Do make small talk with SAs. If you simply mumble "just looking" they will assume you're a jerk who doesn't want to spend money with them. Much better to comment on the weather and generally behave as if you're at home in the store. This serves two purposes really; first to give you a good rapport with the SA so they are more likely to bend the rules in your favour, and second to make you look and feel comfortable. SAs don't tend to hover around comfortable customers because they know you'll call them over when you need help.

Do take the SAs name and tell them that once you have had a look around you will tell them which items you wish to try on.

Do go in with the intention of buying two or more items. Most fashion shops put crazy pressure on their staff to sell two or more items to each customer. Even a pair of $5 socks can raise the number of items and save the SA a lot of stress, preventing them from pressure-selling other items just to save their own ass.


Don't tell the SA that "I own loads of your stuff", it may sound like you're justifying yourself being there but 99% of the time it actually sounds like "I'm just looking, my wardrobe is so overflowing that I don't need anything else, but please remember that I'm a VIP". Needless to say that you will not be treated as a VIP.

Do ask the SA for their opinion if you are struggling to chose between two items (a slim or regular fit jacket for example), they look at the subtleties of fit and colour for a living and can out-analyse even the most hardcore iGent.

Do remember that SAs only take a small commission - typically between 1% and 3%. If they are telling you that a $100 shirt isn't as nice as a $150 shirt their personal stake in the outcome is just fifty cents.

Don't EVER think you are a big-timer. It doesn't matter if you spend $15,000 in Prada or $90,000 in Tom Ford, there is always a bigger fish. I have had customers who have sent private jets to pick up boxes of clothes from my stores without ever seeing them, with the intention of giving anything that does not fit to their staff. I've never met a "Big Timer" who wasn't an ass, and I've never let a genuine Big Timer leave without a free gift or two.

Don't ask for discounts. Designer stores don't offer discounts, and in these days of central computer systems even a small discount is flagged and investigated. There are however items that the store can "lose in the system" such as bottles of fragrances (there are always "tester" bottles that get used up and not replaced) and tailoring costs. In my experience you are unlikely to get free stuff unless you are buying 5+ items or a full outfit, eg. suit, shirt, tie and shoes. If you are offered a discount by an SA you've known for a while consider whether you need it. 99% of the time that discount comes from the allotted amount the SA has to offer their friends and family.

Do ask questions about the wider brand. SAs live in permanent fear of Mystery Shoppers who are paid to act as customers and test everything from their product knowledge to the knot in their tie. Asking about the brand, giving a scenario for which you need an outfit and testing their ability to add in accessories will result in your getting a textbook experience of luxury shopping. BEWARE this trick should not be used unless you have the inclination to hear the history of the brand and be sold several items. Great if you want to walk away after an hour with 10 items, not good if you just want a new shirt in 15 minutes.

Do write an email to head office if you liked your experience. I have seen people receive promotions based on the fact HO got two letters of commendation in 6 months for an SA. Sure, it might take you 15 minutes, but showing that kind of appreciation is more valuable than you can imagine. For many SAs they are move valuable than a reference when moving to another company.

I shouldn't have to say, but ...
The next few should be obvious to anyone who didn't grow up on the street, but sadly a day doesn't go by where people commit the crimes bellow.

Do treat the SA with respect. Worst case scenario they are a young person working a ****** job with low pay and "servile attitude" in their employment contract. Best case scenario they are highly trained and passionate about their products. Either way, their life is in no way improved when you treat them like ****. And you may feel like the Big Man but you better believe that every item will take a 5% price hike and all your favourite stuff is mysteriously out of stock. Be Nice.

Don't treat the clothes you try on as you would your own. Trying on a suit? You should never be dumping the trousers on the floor and expecting the SA to clean up after you. They never expect you to be able to perfectly fold a stack of polo shirts but a pile of cloth and tissue paper on a bench is not cool. Simply stack them up and hand them to the SA as if they were a human being.

Don't visit a high end store after the gym. Even if you would put on a thousand dollar suit covered in sweat, an SA shouldn't have to help you do so. I don't even know why this needs explaining, but seriously, don't put on clothes that you don't own when you're dripping in sweat. Please.

Some general advice about complaining:

Pease consider whether you really need to complain. I know things seem like a big deal at the time, but if an SA gets complained about it can really suck. Complaints go onto the record, and for an SA to have 4 complaints per year is considered really serious.

Imagine how many times in a week you don't submit a document quickly enough, or don't return a call. Do you think you could manage three months without pissing off a single person enough for them to mention to someone in your department that they are annoyed?

Remember that your complaint could very well cost them their job. Naturally there are occasions where it is merited; they were abusive, duplicitous or in some way inexcusably wrong. Fine. They gave you the wrong size t-shirt and you had to come back to the shop? Seriously, a smile and a joke will get you better service than thunderclouds above your head.

If your complaint is about a product rather than the service, do make sure you offer some praise for the staff. I've witnessed store managers getting shouted at because a customer found a fault with a product. Obviously the fault is with the product, not the employee but (and I quote) "If the customer doesn't feel like he can talk to you [as a manager] then you've failed to foster a relationship with him, which is unacceptable!" Ignoring the fact that Mr Customer's secretary wrote the email to Customer Services in 30 seconds.


Obviously this advice has varying validity depending on whether you're in Hugo Boss or Huntsman, but generally speaking if you follow these rules you will make your SAs life easier, and have a much nicer shopping experience. Sales Assistants the world over have favourite customers, and very few are chosen because if their personality, they are chosen because for once the SA feels like they are respected.


Feel free to agree, disagree and generally call bullshit on anything I have written.
 

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