Adding Brogue to Shoe?

[76classic]

I recently was able to buy a pair of Allen Edmonds Birmingham on sale. Is it possible to add a brogue medallion to the toe or would this ruin the shoe?

 

[sho'nuff]

that requires a hole punching technique or tool that would only punch clean holes to the outer layer of the upper leather. also, there needs to be at least 2 layers of upper leather, which the birmingham does on the wingtipped seams but not on the toe.

holes to be punched around the edge of the tongue is ok if it is single leathered layer because traditionally that is proper

i dont think you can do it without ruining the shoe, nor a cobbler outside of AE.

 

[teddieriley]

isn't such brogueing on the leather performed before the upper is stitched to the sole? It seems that trying to punch holes on a completed shoe would just not be pleasant for the shoe's shape.

 

[76classic]

Understood. I knew that Allen Edmonds has a program for custom made shoes, I just didn't know if this would be an option provided by their service. Thank you for your response. I still got them for a good price though. Now my collection is at 4 pair. Hopefully I can add the Cody and Colebrook this year.

 

[Concordia]

Someone posted pictures of so-called "buckshot brogues" a while back. It might be possible to reproduce the same effect in one's own firing range.

 

[luk-cha]

basically the answer is no as you will damage the leather in the stiffner as this is glued and sandwiched between the the inner and other,
if you choose to shot it like somebody suggested it would go all the way thru' and you would a a hole in your shoe so they wound not be wet weather friendly

so my advise is buy i a new shoe - what a great excuss to the wife!

 

[Jared]

Originally Posted by diorshoe

that requires a hole punching technique or tool that would only punch clean holes to the outer layer of the upper leather.
If you only punch half-way through, how will the water drain out?!

 

[bengal-stripe]

Brogueing is part of the "˜closing' process. The various leather pieces get punched, after the parts have been cut and before they're stitched together.

You need to have the pieces flat on your workbench, using a tool and a hammer blow to cut each individual hole (for bespoke shoes)

Shoe factories utilize a brogueing machine (rather like a sewing machine that rattles along the edges, leaving a series of holes).

 

[MrSmith2U]

Sir,

I believe the present day surface broguings evolved from a practical brogue of years ago which involved holes being completely bored through the uppers in order to allow the water to drain when fording streams and so on.

Water retention with the brogue today is no problem in my experience.

yours,

Smith.

 

[borderline]

Originally Posted by MrSmith2U

Sir,

I believe the present day surface broguings evolved from a practical brogue of years ago which involved holes being completely bored through the uppers in order to allow the water to drain when fording streams and so on.

Water retention with the brogue today is no problem in my experience.

yours,

Smith.

Has anyone pointed out the parallel between non-working buttonholes on jackets and the modern brogue that is only decorative? Maybe the new trend for brogues will be to have working holes to go along with your working buttonholes...

It would make the shoes more ventilated and comfortable in the summer! Plus water drainage of course....