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A visit to Astor & Black

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by xkmasada, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. TheWraith

    TheWraith Senior member

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    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread...22#post2708322

    I have had better success than most. Let me know if you have any questions.


    How would you rate your Astor & Black suit in comparison to your Indochino suit?
     
  2. coltboy75

    coltboy75 Senior member

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    ^ I was thinking of doing a comparison once I get teh Indochino altered or remade. That being said, Indochino gave me a lot for my money, but they did not pay someone a commission either.
     
  3. TheWraith

    TheWraith Senior member

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    ^ I was thinking of doing a comparison once I get teh Indochino altered or remade. That being said, Indochino gave me a lot for my money, but they did not pay someone a commission either.

    Looking forward to the comparison.
     
  4. tittle

    tittle New Member

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    After some research to order one of the packages of suits and shirts from Astor & Black. I should have just flushed the money down the toilet - the suits sit in my closet never to be worn.

    As previous posters have mentioned there is something about the fit that is off - even after going to tailor it could not be made to look right. The tailor even mentioned that I looked like lurch in the suit and there was no amount of fixing that could fix a poor fitting suit fit. I just couldn't deal with it anymore and took the suits.

    What about the suits fit poorly? - The pants - it looks like I am wearing skinny jeans (I am 6'3 and 220), low cut suits pants - not the right look and not what the suit they based on the measurements they took.

    Just don' bother with them.
     
  5. coltboy75

    coltboy75 Senior member

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    I am still waiting to build a comparison between my Astor & Black and Indochino suits. I had the Indochino suit remade in a different fabric after my tailor told me it was a poly blend and I have yet to receive the remake. You can search under my posts for that story.

    That being said, I have been very happy with my Astor & Black shirts and suit. Having said that, I asked alot of questions, told the rep what I wanted and what I expected. I am assuming it could be a bad combination if the rep is new and the buyer does not know what they want or what looks good on them. I do wish they had a direct purchase program once you had the measurements down and the fit the way you wanted it. After having great success with companies like Modern Tailor, its hard to call a sales rep to buy a few shirts.
     
  6. merkur

    merkur Senior member

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  7. tmcfarlin

    tmcfarlin New Member

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    I have had shirts made by this company, and their products are a JOKE! The shirts I received had threads hanging off everywhere, as if they were made in Mexico or China by third world workers, the stitching was uneven and not straight, the fabric was inconsistent and did not match and was also uneven side to side.
    The only thing worse than the quality was the fit. The shirts were not made for me at all, they took a few critical measurements, and cut a large shirt down to fit in certain areas, but overall the fit was awful. I wouldn't even wear the shirts out of the house, they look like a Halloween costume or something.
    The best part...almost a year after paying for the shirts ($652.50 for five shirts), and sending them back due to such poor quality and fit, I still have yet to receive a refund or replacement product.
    I can't imagine there are "loyal customers" of this company, most likely it's a bunch of first-timers like me who order once, and never order again due to the issues outlined above.
     
  8. texasmade10

    texasmade10 Well-Known Member

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    if you do not see the garment in a fitting or fittings between the measuring and the finished garment, then its a made to measure. its not custom/bespoke.

    You should check out this thread

    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=216656
     
  9. wEstSidE

    wEstSidE Senior member

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    yea this is a really good thread. classic SF trainwreck.
     
  10. gladhands

    gladhands Senior member

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    Any New Astor and Black stories, or is this the general consensus?
     
  11. w.o.e.is.me.

    w.o.e.is.me. Senior member

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    @Glad, i've had a few pieces made by them. will PM you when I have a moment.
     
  12. Frank Davis

    Frank Davis Well-Known Member

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    Wow this thread is getting heat up. I will be watching it very close.[​IMG]
     
  13. jrd617

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    The third link in a Google search for "Astor and Black" is this thread... I wonder if their business has suffered at all with those GQ ads?
     
  14. Frank Davis

    Frank Davis Well-Known Member

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    The third link in a Google search for "Astor and Black" is this thread... I wonder if their business has suffered at all with those GQ ads?

    Well I guess that is a pity because I am sure this thread is probably going to give their business a big kick in the ass[​IMG]

    And in my opinion that is just the beginning, because the thread has just gotten started and will just continue rolling till it hits the hundred ands post.
     
  15. iherald

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    I have had good experiences with A&B. The shirts I got were good quality, but they were boxy and not slim fitting like I hoped. But, A&B paid for them to be tailored the way I like them.

    The suits I got were good quality (at least to my eyes). I've got many compliments on them.

    I'd certainly buy more stuff from them.
     
  16. zipzap

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    http://www.groupon.com/deals/astor-a...utm_source=rvs

    Today's Groupon spruces up dishabille gentlefolk with formal threads: for $600, you get a complete suit package"”one custom cashmere and wool blend suit (an $850 value), two custom shirts (a $270 value), and two neckties (a $170 value) from Astor & Black Custom Clothiers. Today's deal is valid for both men and women's suits and shirts. The professional clothiers will come to your home or office to gather measurements and ensure each suit is designed exactly to your preferences.

    ***Note: in the discussion section, somebody asked: "Is this only redeemable in the Cincinnati area, or any area Astor and Black serves?"

    ...and Groupon answered: "Hey Aaron this one is specifically for the Greater Cincinnati Area. However If you getin touch with me (knolan@groupon.com) I can let you know whether or not you fall within the service area or not!

    We will be featuring this in other locations in the near future and I am sure we can work something out for you.

    The Cincinnati reps cover a very large area!

    Kevin (Groupon)"

    http://www.groupon.com/deals/astor-and-black/posts


    So do y'all think this is a good deal?
     
  17. taxgenius

    taxgenius Senior member

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    http://www.groupon.com/deals/astor-a...utm_source=rvs

    Today's Groupon spruces up dishabille gentlefolk with formal threads: for $600, you get a complete suit package"”one custom cashmere and wool blend suit (an $850 value), two custom shirts (a $270 value), and two neckties (a $170 value) from Astor & Black Custom Clothiers. Today's deal is valid for both men and women's suits and shirts. The professional clothiers will come to your home or office to gather measurements and ensure each suit is designed exactly to your preferences.

    ***Note: in the discussion section, somebody asked: "Is this only redeemable in the Cincinnati area, or any area Astor and Black serves?"

    ...and Groupon answered: "Hey Aaron this one is specifically for the Greater Cincinnati Area. However If you getin touch with me (knolan@groupon.com) I can let you know whether or not you fall within the service area or not!

    We will be featuring this in other locations in the near future and I am sure we can work something out for you.

    The Cincinnati reps cover a very large area!

    Kevin (Groupon)"

    http://www.groupon.com/deals/astor-and-black/posts


    So do y'all think this is a good deal?


    No. Take $500 and get a good suit and then spend $100 and have it tailored if needed.
     
  18. gladhands

    gladhands Senior member

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    I actually necroed this thread because of a Boston Groupon offer. FYI, the package was $500 here.
     
  19. CaymanS

    CaymanS Senior member

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    I dont' know what to believe. So I believe none of this.

    Same. But I *do* believe in the legs in your avatar...yum.
     
  20. mrbrioni

    mrbrioni Senior member

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    I ordered 6 suits and a dozen shirts from Astor & Black in Chicago.

    The rep was a very friendly, extremely nice guy.

    Fit -

    Suits - When I received my suits, I've never had a "custom" suit fit so terribly that there tailor AND my own tailor said it would be impossible to make these even come close to fitting.

    Shirts - fit was fine, nothing great, nothing terrible.


    Quality -

    Suits - I had ordered only Scabal fabric and these suits were the worst quality of any suits off the rack suit I had ever purchased in my life.

    Shirts - Worse than a paul frederick shirt.

    Sam's tailoring in Hong Kong which makes suits for 1/5 of the price of Astor & Black is higher quality than this stuff.


    ON TOP OF ALL THIS, ASTOR & BLACK WOULD NOT REMAKE ME MY SUITS OR GIVE ME A REFUND FOR THE $4,000 DEPOSIT I HAD MADE ON MY SUITS!!!

    I have even spoken to Mr. David Shottenstein himself and he said under no circumstances would they do anything.

    BEWARE!!

    I've never had such a terrible experience in my life.

    If anyone has any way I can get my money back please let me know.
     

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