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A visit to Astor & Black

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by xkmasada, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. penguin vic

    penguin vic Senior member

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    That disgraceful. In Australia, it's also unlawful.
     
  2. Bhowie

    Bhowie Senior member

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    Did anyone report this to a mod?
     
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  4. FidelCashflow

    FidelCashflow Senior member

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    There's that questionable business acumen again...
     
  5. AstorandBlack

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    With all due respect to those of you that have criticized the company's response, why do you feel its reasonable for someone to publicly trash a company's name and image and the company has no right to respond and tell their side of the story? This is a forum correct? Does that mean people are only allowed to post negative views and criticism but when someone posts a positive view instantly all members accuse them of being a company frontman? I am not the company spokesman and may perhaps get rebuked for responding to this situation but I will say as salesperson for the company I find it reprehensible that a customer can present any version of events to the public but the company is not allowed to respond. For the record, we have actually resolved our issues with this customer and have moved on.
     
  6. AstorandBlack

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    For the record though I do apologize for using the clients name, from what I understand the client has resolved the issues with the company. It is absolutely not company policy to publicly discuss clients and it will not happen again.
     
  7. Astor&BlackPR

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    TTENTION ALL STYLEFORUM USERS: THE COMMENTS RECENTLY ON THIS THREAD UNDER THE ASTORANDBLACK USER ID WERE POSTED BY AN UNAUTHORIZED EMPLOYEE WHO HAS SINCE BEEN TERMINATED. THESE COMMENTS WERE NOT APPROVED OR AUTHORIZED BY ASTOR & BLACK CUSTOM CLOTHIERS. WE SINCERELY APOLOGIZE AND ASSURE YOU THAT WE AS A COMPANY DO NOT CONDONE SUCH BUSINESS PRACTICES SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION OR CONCERNS OR IF YOU NOTICE ANY OTHER THREADS THAT SEEM OUT OF THE ORDINARY PLEASE CONTACT OUR HOME OFFICE IMMEDIATELY AT 614-857-9000 THANK YOU, Aria Zelnik Director of Marketing & Public Relations aria@astorandblack.com Astor & Black Custom Clothiers
     
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    pwnd.

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  10. teddieriley

    teddieriley Senior member

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    Wait, you smell that?
    I dont' know what to believe. So I believe none of this.
     
  11. oaw01

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    Anyone with AB experience? How's the quality? Hell, they must spend alot of cash to advertise on GQ.

    Shit, their $2200 deal is for 2 suits 120s, 6 shirts and two ties. Hell, if they can make a good slim suit I'm all in.
     
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    Nevermind, just saw some reviews from AAC - this seems like junk. Hell, their propaganda works if they're dropping $$$ for GQ advertisement.
     
  14. Traditional_wear

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    I ordered a single suit from Astor and black a while ago, just to see how their tailoring matched up. Their service was a strange mix, at times beyond excellent, other times beyond dismal. What do I mean? It took three times to get the suit to fit correctly, and they never got it completely right. The last suit took four months from the original order date to get here. Three tries at six weeks each...well, you do the math. However, they were so apologetic, they gave me a free suit. Once again, this suit did not fit me very well either. So I guess they made up for it, however, the quality of the suit....it was a bit off. I couldn't explain it, the pick stitching was there, it was a canvassed suit, the fabric was decent but....it didnt seem to have any structure. The shoulders were kind of rounded, and the whole suit have this sort of roundish look to it. I found a new tailor while I was dealing with the Astor and black gentlemen, and he knew exactly what he was doing. He also showed me how they can charge so little for the suit. They skimp on labor, badly. He opened up the astor and black suit, whereas a zegna or canali suit generally has about 400-600 stitches in its lapel and chestpiece to give it that structured, armored look, astor and black had a total of.....20. The reason they can charge so little for a suit is because while the suit is handmade, the labor intensity is WEAK. Also, they do use a small amount of fusion in the chestpiece (but every suit does, even brioni, a small strip right below the breast is fused on) But that is why whenever you get an astor and black suit it somehow seems.....off. Hope everyone found this post useful
     
  15. w.o.e.is.me.

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    Hate to ressurrect this post, but my wife was kind enough to order me an Astor & Black fitting as a gift. I will be getting some shirts, but was considering getting fitted for a suit as well, while I was at it.

    So. any new news?
     
  16. edmorel

    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Hate to ressurrect this post, but my wife was kind enough to order me an Astor & Black fitting as a gift. I will be getting some shirts, but was considering getting fitted for a suit as well, while I was at it.

    So. any new news?


    I would start with the shirts, see how the experience and quality goes, and then you can decide on a suit.
     
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    teddieriley Senior member

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    Wait, you smell that?
    I would start with the shirts, see how the experience and quality goes, and then you can decide on a suit.

    How nice of you Ed. I was going to suggest a divorce. Of course, I'm kidding.

    Don't drop coin on a suit until you are comfortable about the Company's ability to deliver what you expect.
     
  18. w.o.e.is.me.

    w.o.e.is.me. Senior member

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    ^^Sound advice guys. Thanks.
     
  19. alliswell

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    And bring a shirt that fits you well now, so they can't screw up the measurements too badly. This stuff is not rocket science, but the guys doing aren't rocket scientists either. And say hello to George at Flormont Tailors - I think he's the guy who does the final finish on their products.
     
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